Modeling Forced Oscillations with Viscous Damping and External Force

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The problem involves modeling forced oscillations of a mass-spring system immersed in a viscous fluid, with specific parameters including mass, damping coefficient, and an external driving force. The original poster attempts to formulate the problem but expresses uncertainty regarding the spring constant and natural frequency.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of the spring constant to determine the natural frequency and question the completeness of the provided information. There is also a consideration of the implications of how the external force is applied to the mass.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some offering insights into the relationship between the mass, gravitational force, and spring constant. There is a recognition of potential ambiguities in the problem statement, but no consensus has been reached regarding the interpretation of the external force.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of explicit information regarding the spring constant and the nature of the external force application, which may affect the analysis of the system. Participants note that the problem may be poorly worded, leading to confusion.

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Homework Statement
A spring is stretched 2m by a mass of 2 kg. The body is immersed in a viscous fluid with the damping coefficient having 4 Ns / m which is driven by an external force 4cos (2t). Plot mass position versus time. g = 10 m / s2.

The attempt at a solution
I know first I have to find an equivalent form as that of forced oscilations
x⋅⋅+2γx02x = F×cos(ωt)/m
but I can't figure out because I don't have an elasticity const k or a frequency. I think I don't need one, but I don't know how to start.
 
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Don't you need the spring constant to find the natural frequency?
Is there any other information supplied? Maybe in the context?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Don't you need the spring constant to find the natural frequency?
Is there any other information supplied? Maybe in the context?

I thought that too, but that's all; nothing else given. Maybe the problem has some bugs.
 
Maybe ... ask.
 
I will
Thank you anyway!
 
What do you suppose "a spring is stretched 2m by a mass of 2 kg" means?
 
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It means that the maximum elongation x (amplitude) is exerted by the gravitational force =m*g ...so
-m*g=-kx
k=m*g/x= 10 N/m xD

Thank you very much!
 
Ooh... I missed it too, well done.
 
Poorly worded problem.
Is the mass subjected to the force 4cos (2t) directly, or is the force exerted on the mass indirectly by applying the force to a container containing the mass and viscous fluid? If the latter the mass of the fluid + containing vessel would also have to be specified.
 

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