Modeling movement of a solid in H20

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The discussion revolves around modeling the movement of a solid cube in water using differential equations. The original poster is exploring scenarios where the cube is either never submerged or can be completely submerged, seeking guidance on how to approach the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law and differential equations to describe the motion of the cube, considering forces such as buoyancy and damping. Some participants question the feasibility of modeling fluid friction in detail and suggest that a simplified model might be necessary.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. The original poster has provided an initial approach, while others are raising concerns about the complexity of fluid dynamics and the lack of specific information about the solid cube.

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There is mention of a chapter exercise from a textbook on differential equations, which may imply certain constraints or expectations regarding the level of detail required in the modeling process.

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Homework Statement



Im pretty much looking for a little push in the right to direction as to how to get me started on using a differential equation to model the up and down movement of a solid cube in water when a.) it is never submerged, and b.) when it can be completely submerged.

The Attempt at a Solution




I looked at it from a physics point of view first:

I used EF=ma... I started when it is balanced... so Fb=Fw... but I am not quite sure where to go from there. I realize that when you apply a force, it will move in a wave motion with damping that will eventually cause it to reach equilibrium again.

Using some differential equations-

mx(double dot)+bx(dot)+kx=Fcos(omega*t).

Where k is the restoring force, b is the resistance to movement, and m is the mass. So, i figure I could use -F/x and plug that in for k, and for b I could find a formula for water induced drag/friction...?

Could anyone give me a little push in the right direction here
 
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Fluid friction is extremely difficult to model in any detail. Where is this problem coming from? Why do you think it's one you should be able to solve unless you are given a simplified model? I can't.
 
Dick said:
Fluid friction is extremely difficult to model in any detail. Where is this problem coming from? Why do you think it's one you should be able to solve unless you are given a simplified model? I can't.

Well, its a chapter exercise in my one book that I've been studying from: Differential Equations by Blanchard. Maybe they don't want the exact fluid friction numbers but the general solution of just letting it equal a variable (which would seem too simple...).

They didnt tell you anything specific about the solid cube itself, just that it is there, and it oscillates.

But the question is do-able and I doubt its that tough considering it was from my first DE course.
 

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