How can I calculate the R value for a solid in OpenFOAM CFD modeling?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the R value for solids in the context of CFD modeling using OpenFOAM. Participants explore the application of the ideal gas law to solids and seek methods to derive the R value for different materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the equation for calculating the density of a perfect fluid in OpenFOAM and expresses difficulty in determining the R value for solids.
  • Another participant questions the application of the ideal gas law to solids and liquids, indicating a potential misunderstanding.
  • A participant clarifies that the equation referenced is from the OpenFOAM user guide, suggesting that the issue may stem from a lack of understanding of the underlying physics.
  • One suggestion is made to consult databases for known values of density for the solid in question to approximate R.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the application of the ideal gas law to solids, and multiple viewpoints regarding the calculation of R remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the behavior of solids in the context of the ideal gas law, as well as the lack of clear references for calculating R values for various materials.

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During CFD modeling of a gas-solid flow, flow of solid was modeled as a perfect fluid using OpenFOAM.

The density of the perfect fluid is calculated using the following equation as given in the documentation.

ρ = P/RT + ρo , where ρo is the density at T = 0 kelvin, ρ is the density of the perfect fluid at pressure P (Pa) and temperature T (K). There is no other mention about this in the documentation of OpenFOAM.

My struggle is to calculate the R (J kg -1 K-1) for the solid. In the OpenFOAM tutorials for the normal conditions of water R = 3000 with ρo = 1027 kg m-3.

Also for mercury
R = 6818 with ρo = 13529 kg m-3.

I tried to plot the ρ with P/T for water and the linear equation was

ρ = 0.4321 (P/T) + 848.78, where R = 2.314

So could anyone please tell me how to calculate R for a certain fluid or solid. I have searched the internet for days and still didn't find any reference to this equation.
 
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I'm still tryng to figure out how you are applying the ideal gas law to solids and liquids.
 
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Actually this is the equation, OpenFOAM has mentioned in their user guide. Not my idea. I thought this is some physics that I cannot understand.

You can see the equation in page U-203 of their user guide. Here is the link.
http://foam.sourceforge.net/docs/Guides-a4/OpenFOAMUserGuide-A4.pdf

I have seen the same problem asked in cfd-online.com, but with no answers

https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/o...velopment/195068-r-constant-perfet-fluid.html

Thanks for your comment anyway. I would be grateful if you could give me a solution.
 
I have no idea too, but the only thing that you can do -i think- is to look in some database for ##\rho_0## and ##\rho## for the solid you are interested in and then calculate an approximation of R.
 

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