Calculating the Volume of Water in a Goldfish Bowl through Solids of Revolution

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The problem involves calculating the volume of water in a goldfish bowl modeled as a sphere with a diameter of 20 cm and a maximum water depth of 18 cm. The context is centered around the principles of solids of revolution and geometric reasoning.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the initial steps of visualizing the problem through sketches and consider using the volume of the sphere and principles of solids of revolution. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the dimensions of the bowl and the radius of the cross-section at various heights.

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The discussion is ongoing with participants exploring different interpretations of the geometry involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Pythagorean theorem to find the radius at different water levels, and there is an emphasis on deriving an expression for the radius in terms of the height.

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Participants are working with the constraints of the problem, including the fixed dimensions of the bowl and the varying radius of the cross-section depending on the height of the water. There is a focus on ensuring accurate sketches to aid understanding.

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Homework Statement


A goldfish bowl is a glass sphere of inside diameter 20cm. Calculate the volume of water it contains when the maximum depth is 18cm.





The attempt at a solution

I don't really have an idea of how to attempt this, all I did so far was a draw a little sketch of the bowl and put in the dimensions

Hmm.. should I just find the volume of the sphere, sketch the cross-section of it, and then try to use the principles of solids of revolution to find the volume?
 
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lionely said:

Homework Statement


A goldfish bowl is a glass sphere of inside diameter 20cm. Calculate the volume of water it contains when the maximum depth is 18cm.





The attempt at a solution

I don't really have an idea of how to attempt this, all I did so far was a draw a little sketch of the bowl and put in the dimensions

Hmm.. should I just find the volume of the sphere, sketch the cross-section of it, and then try to use the principles of solids of revolution to find the volume?

Consider the vertical cross-section of the bowl. Let the centre of the bowl be the origin (0,0). y-coordinates range from -10 to +8.

Now consider the horizontal circular cross section of a disc of water taken at a certain y-coordinate. Find its radius via Pythagoras theorem, and hence its area.

Hence figure out the volume of an infinitesimally small cylinder having that cross-section and a vertical height dy.

Now do the integration, imposing the correct bounds for y.
 
Umm wouldn't the radius be 10cm, because the diameter of the bowl is 20cm?

Cause maybe I drew my diagram badly I'm not seeing how I can use Pythagoras ' theorem.
:S
 
lionely said:
Umm wouldn't the radius be 10cm, because the diameter of the bowl is 20cm?

Cause maybe I drew my diagram badly I'm not seeing how I can use Pythagoras ' theorem.
:S

Right through the centre (at y = 0), yes the radius of the cross-section would be 10cm.

But what about other y values. Hint: think of a right triangle, the hypotenuse being the constant radius of the bowl (10cm), the vertical height being y and the horizontal base being the radius of the cross-section.
 
Is the radius 6cm?
 
lionely said:
Is the radius 6cm?

Huh? The radius of the horizontal cross-section varies continuously depending on the level you're taking it at.

Did you make a proper sketch?
 
Hm... Maybe I didn't on my diagram 10 is the hypotenuse and 8 is the perpendicular height.
 
lionely said:
Hm... Maybe I didn't on my diagram 10 is the hypotenuse and 8 is the perpendicular height.

10cm is always the hypotenuse.

y varies from -10 (bottom) to +8 (top of water level). Do you understand this?

8cm is only the height when you're considering the area of the top surface of the water (y = 8). At that point, the radius is ##\sqrt{10^2 - 8^2} = 6cm##. Agree?

At the bottom of the bowl (y = -10), the radius is zero, because the bottom is just a point, not a circle. Agree?

The radius of the cross-section right through the level of y = 0 (center of the sphere) is 10cm (simply the radius of the sphere). Agree?

Now you can take the cross section of water at *any* water level between the bottom and the top, not just those "special" levels. Your job is to find an expression, in terms of y, for the radius of this cross-section. Can you do this?

Remember, what you get will be in terms of y - it'll have a y in the expression, not just a number.
 
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