Modern file backup options: cloud? / HD?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modern file backup options, focusing on the effectiveness and reliability of various methods such as external hard drives, solid-state drives, and cloud storage. Participants share personal experiences and strategies for ensuring data safety, particularly in the context of personal and family files.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares a negative experience with a failed external drive, prompting a discussion on the need for reliable backup solutions.
  • Another suggests a multi-format backup strategy, incorporating various media types including external drives and cloud storage.
  • Some participants express a desire for a balance between backup robustness and convenience, noting that certain methods, like burning CDs, may be too labor-intensive.
  • A participant describes a sophisticated backup system using ZFS with frequent snapshots and multiple redundancy measures, highlighting the cost implications of such a setup.
  • Discussion includes references to historical backup strategies, such as tape rotation and the importance of incremental backups.
  • Some express skepticism about cloud storage, emphasizing the need for offline backups to protect against various threats, including hardware failure and malware.
  • Several participants advocate for using multiple external drives to mitigate the risk of simultaneous failures.
  • One participant mentions the use of Git for version control in programming projects as a form of backup, suggesting it may not be suitable for all types of files.
  • Concerns are raised about the longevity of digital formats and the need for data migration as technology evolves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best backup strategy, with multiple competing views on the effectiveness of cloud storage versus physical backups, and varying opinions on the necessity of complexity in backup systems.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the limitations of their proposed strategies, including the potential for hardware failure and the need for regular maintenance of backup systems. There are also concerns about the evolving nature of technology and data formats affecting long-term data preservation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals seeking advice on data backup strategies, particularly those with personal or family files to protect, as well as professionals managing software projects or sensitive data.

  • #61
DaveC426913 said:
Exactly my thoughts. I thought I had made it clear. I am not looking for a business-grade solution, just a home-grade solution. So, no RAIDS, etc.

I'll make one-time purchases of maybe a couple hundred $$.
Well, I wouldn't say RAID is beyond "home-grade". I use a Western Digital McCloud network drive. It has RAID and is specifically targeted toward home users.

But also on V50's prompt, I bought a new USB drive, copied the backup to it and took it to work.
 
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  • #62
russ_watters said:
Well, I wouldn't say RAID is beyond "home-grade".
I guess things have progressed, and my experience has not.
Last time I saw a RAID, it was on a server rack, in a server room.
 
  • #63
DaveC426913 said:
I guess things have progressed, and my experience has not.
Last time I saw a RAID, it was on a server rack, in a server room.
Well, I don't know how many decades out of date that is, but I'd guess at least 2. I've run it iternal in PCs for at least 15yrs and I know I wasn't a trailblazer. Here's what the NAS looks like though:

https://shop.westerndigital.com/solutions/raid
 
  • #64
You can pop two drives in a desktop almost as easy as one. RAIDing them is much easier than in the past. It's not really for servers-only any more.
 
  • #65
russ_watters said:
Well, I don't know how many decades out of date that is, but I'd guess at least 2.
Seems about right. Been a long time since I've worked at a shop where servers are local.
Megacorps like banks prefer off-planet sites or farther.
 
  • #66
russ_watters said:
Western Digital McCloud

Does it have Dennis Weaver riding a horse through the streets of NYC?
 
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  • #67
I'll note that the Synology I got is likely overkill for your needs. To be honest, I got it because I just wanted to play with it. My rationalization was that it would be good for backups.
 
  • #68
Vanadium 50 said:
Does it have Dennis Weaver riding a horse through the streets of NYC?
Oops. MyCloud. Not MacLeod either.
 
  • #69
russ_watters said:
Not MacLeod either.

Captain of the Love Boat? Head newswriter for WJM?
 
  • #70
By the way, although RAID has advantages, and may even be appropriate in this case, RAID is not backup. RAID will protect you from a disk failure, but not user failure: If you type "rm -rf /", RAID won't help.
 
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