Modified Atwood's Machine on an Inclined Plane

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The problem involves a modified Atwood's machine with two blocks, one on an inclined plane and the other hanging. The setup includes a mass of 0.75 kg on the incline at a 40-degree angle, connected by a pulley to a 1.5 kg mass. The coefficient of friction for the block on the incline is given as 0.29, and the goal is to determine the acceleration of the system.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law to the system, with one suggesting to analyze each mass separately to derive two equations for acceleration. There is also a focus on the role of friction and its correct application in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the correct incorporation of the frictional force and questioning the original poster's understanding of the forces acting on the blocks. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to calculate the normal force to determine the friction force accurately.

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There is uncertainty regarding the application of friction in the context of the inclined plane and the Atwood's machine setup. The original poster expresses confusion due to differing instructional examples from their teacher.

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Homework Statement


Block B with a mass of (.75kg) is on an inclined plane attatched by a pulley to Block A which has a mass of (1.5kg). The angle given is 40 degrees. The coefficient of friction of Block B on the ramp is .29. What is the acceleration?


Homework Equations


Fnet=m*a
f=Fnormal*Coefficient of f


The Attempt at a Solution


My solution was Fnet = m*a
Fnet = Fapplied - f
Fapplied = the weight of Block A (m*g) = 14.7N
f = fx of Block B which equals sin(40)*7.36 = 2.25
Fnet = 12.5
therefore a=Fnet / m
m = mass of the system which is 1.5 +.75 = 2.25kg
a = 12.5 / 2.25
a= 5.56m/s/s


I don't think that this is correct. Our Physics teacher has showed us inclined plane problems with a = 0 and without Atwood's machine. He has also showed us an Atwood's Machine problem without an angle. So now I am stuck and I don't know how to accuratley solve this problem. Thanks for the help.
 

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You left out the friction force.

Rather than doing the problem in a single step, you might want to apply Newton's 2nd law to each mass separately. You'll get two equations that you can solve together to find the acceleration. This method will allow you to solve all sorts of complicated problems.
 
Where do I need to input the frictional force?

I thought that the frictional force was the 'x' component of the weight of Block B which is 2.25N

@Doc Al, did you see the diagram I attatched? Thank you for looking at this :)
 
Labrack said:
Where do I need to input the frictional force?
It's a force acting on block B.

I thought that the frictional force was the 'x' component of the weight of Block B which is 2.25N
No, the x-component of the weight is another force on block B. (Hint: To find the friction force, first find the normal force between block and incline.)
 

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