Modified heat equation steady state

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The discussion revolves around determining the steady state equation for a modified heat equation with specified boundary conditions. The equation under consideration is a partial differential equation involving time and spatial derivatives.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss setting the time derivative to zero to transition the problem into an ordinary differential equation (ODE). There are questions about the nature of the variable T, whether it is a constant or a function. Some participants explore methods such as variation of parameters and express concerns about isolating variables in their equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and questioning the methods used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the choice of functions for the general solution of the homogeneous equation, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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There are ongoing discussions about the assumptions regarding T and the implications of the boundary conditions. Participants express uncertainty about the integration process and the complexity of solving for constants in their solutions.

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Homework Statement


determine the steady state equation for the given heat equation and boundary conditions


Homework Equations


Ut=Uxx-4(U-T)
U(0,T)=T U(4,T)=0 U(x,0)=f(x)


The Attempt at a Solution


I put Ut=0
so 0=UInf''-4(Uinf-T)
then once I tried to integrate I ended up with a Uinf that's impossible to isolate is there a specific method used for this kind of heat equation?
 
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The steady state is usually when the system is time independent, so:
[tex] \frac{\partial U}{\partial t}=0[/tex]
So this will turn your equation into and ODE, which I see you have already done and your ODE is:
[tex] \frac{\partial^{2}U}{\partial x^{2}}-4U+4T=0[/tex]
I am not too sure what T is, is it a constant? A function?
 
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dp182 said:

Homework Statement


determine the steady state equation for the given heat equation and boundary conditions


Homework Equations


Ut=Uxx-4(U-T)
U(0,T)=T U(4,T)=0 U(x,0)=f(x)


The Attempt at a Solution


I put Ut=0
so 0=UInf''-4(Uinf-T)
then once I tried to integrate I ended up with a Uinf that's impossible to isolate is there a specific method used for this kind of heat equation?

What do you mean by "impossible to isolate". Calling what you call Uinf u(x) for simplicity the equation you have written is just

u''(x) - 4u(x) = -4T
u(0) = u(T) = 0

A second order constant coefficient ODE.
 
I believe T is constant. so I tried using variation of parameters to solve (Uinf=X) X''-4X=-4T
and came up with a particular solution of
c1e2x+c2e-2x-T then solved for the constants using boundary conditions. is this method right as all the example I have seen involve just integrating it twice.
 
dp182 said:
I believe T is constant. so I tried using variation of parameters to solve (Uinf=X) X''-4X=-4T
and came up with a particular solution of
c1e2x+c2e-2x-T then solved for the constants using boundary conditions. is this method right as all the example I have seen involve just integrating it twice.

That should work, but I'm guessing it gets a bit messy solving for the constants. Here's a little trick you might like to learn. You probably know that instead of using the pair {e2x,e-2x} for the general solution of the homogeneous equation, you could have used {sinh(2x),cosh(2x)}, which simplifies things a bit when you calculate X(0) = 0. But an even better choice is the pair {sinh(x),sinh(T-x}. Try evaluating the constants when you write your solution

X(x) = Asinh(x)+Bsinh(T-x) + T

and you will see what I mean.
 

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