Modifying EFE to Match Newton's Gravity Predictions

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The discussion centers on the possibility of modifying the Einstein Field Equations (EFE) to yield predictions identical to those of Newton's law of gravity. Participants clarify that while Newton-Cartan theory provides a geometric formulation of Newtonian gravity, it does not serve as a direct modification of the EFE. They emphasize that General Relativity (GR) encompasses Newtonian gravity as a low-speed, weak-field limit, specifically under static conditions. The conversation highlights the mathematical mechanics behind the divergence of predictions between the two theories, particularly in scenarios involving multiple gravitating bodies.

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PAllen said:
I don't understand this. What does the invariant speed have to do with time derivatives? In the c infinite limit, under several schemes, you have Newtonian gravity. Does that mean time derivatives can't exist in Newtonian physics??

Note, the c infinite limit of the Lorentz transform is the Galilean transform. Does that prevent time derivatives from existing?
I meant coordinate time derivatives on the metric, sorry for the confusion. These are multiplied by a factor 1\c and so constitute factors which drop out after the c-->oo limit. Of course, this has nothing to do with the derivatives in the geodesic eqn. w.r.t. the affine parameter ;)
 
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PeterDonis said:
The Einstein-Infeld-Hoffman equations aren't differential equations. They are the Newton force equation, ##G m_1 m_2 / r^2##, plus first-order post-Newtonian corrections, summed over all pairs of bodies. Since the post-Newtonian correction terms are all multiplied by ##1 / c^2##, they all vanish in the limit ##c \to \infty##, leaving just the Newtonian force.
How are they not differential equations? They relate positions and first and second derivatives thereof. For n bodies, they are a system of n complicated second order differential equations. The Newtonian case is the same, only the equations are much simpler and of course are explicitly solvable for n=2.
 
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PAllen said:
How are they not differential equations?

You're right, I was only looking at the RHS of the Newtonian case.
 

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