Molar Heat Capacity: Find Value of k

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The problem involves a diatomic ideal gas undergoing two heating processes: first at constant volume until its pressure doubles, and then at constant pressure until its volume doubles. The goal is to determine the molar heat capacity for the entire process expressed as kR.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the temperature changes during the heating steps and the calculations for heat transfer using specific heat capacities. Some express confusion regarding the application of equations and units, while others question the assumptions made about heat capacities.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and questioning the correctness of their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to clarify the heat transferred in each step and the proper use of specific heat capacities.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the dimensions of heat capacities and the need to incorporate the gas constant R into the calculations. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of their assumptions and the definitions of the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


A diatomic ideal gas is heated at constant volume until its pressure is doubled. It is again heated at constant pressure until its volume is doubled. The molar heat capacity for the whole process is kR. Find the value of k.

Homework Equations


ans is k=19/6.
p/t=constant, v/t=constant(gas laws)
ea7e02c5813c44024f10d66ca94f37b1.png
. [c][/p]=3.5,[c][/v]=2.5

3. The attempt at a solutioN
let initial temperature be T.Then after 1st step it becomes 2T and after 2nd step it becomes 4T.(gas laws).
Q=2.5*(2T-T)+3.5*(4T-T)
ΔT=3T(is it correct?)
this is all i can think.please help.i am not getting answer.
 
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shrutiphysics said:

Homework Statement


A diatomic ideal gas is heated at constant volume until its pressure is doubled. It is again heated at constant pressure until its volume is doubled. The molar heat capacity for the whole process is kR. Find the value of k.

Homework Equations


ans is k=19/6.
p/t=constant, v/t=constant(gas laws)
ea7e02c5813c44024f10d66ca94f37b1.png
. [c][/p]=3.5,[c][/v]=2.5

3. The attempt at a solutioN
let initial temperature be T. Then after 1st step it becomes 2T and after 2nd step it becomes 4T. (gas laws).
Q=2.5*(2T-T)+3.5*(4T-T)
This doesn't make sense unitwise. Also, you might want to rethink the second ##\Delta T##.
ΔT=3T(is it correct?)
this is all i can think.please help.i am not getting answer.
 
shrutiphysics said:

Homework Statement


A diatomic ideal gas is heated at constant volume until its pressure is doubled. It is again heated at constant pressure until its volume is doubled. The molar heat capacity for the whole process is kR. Find the value of k.

Homework Equations


ans is k=19/6.
p/t=constant, v/t=constant(gas laws)
ea7e02c5813c44024f10d66ca94f37b1.png
. [c][/p]=3.5,[c][/v]=2.5

3. The attempt at a solutioN
let initial temperature be T.Then after 1st step it becomes 2T and after 2nd step it becomes 4T.(gas laws).
Q=2.5*(2T-T)+3.5*(4T-T)
ΔT=3T(is it correct?)
this is all i can think.please help.i am not getting answer.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the final temperature is three times the initial one, ΔT=3T is correct. The heat transferred is C n ΔT, but the temperature changes from 2T to 4T in the second step. (And nR is missing from your equation)
 
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Yes, the final temperature is three times the initial one, ΔT=3T is correct. The heat transferred is C n ΔT, but the temperature changes from 2T to 4T in the second step. (And nR is missing from your equation)[/QUOTe
ehild said:
Q=2.5*(2T-T)+3.5*(4T-T)
ΔT=3T(is it correct?)
this is all i can think.please help.i am not getting answer.
i am not getting the answer in any way.am i using wrong equation?
and how can i find nR?
if anyone knows please guide me to solution as i am stuck badly.
 
Show your work please.
What is the heat transferred in the first step?
What is the heat transferred in the second step?
 
ehild said:
Show your work please.
What is the heat transferred in the first step?
What is the heat transferred in the second step?
upto my knowledge when i use molar specific heat cp and cv then
heat transferred first step=ncvΔT=2.5*T(temp changes from T to 2T)
2nd step=ncpΔT=3.5*T(temp changes from 2T TO 4T)
And finally to find out molar heat capacity i added both the values and divided it by net temperature change i.e 3T.
where am i going wrong?
 
You said that nCv=2,5 and nCp=3.5. Do you really think that the heat capacities are dimensionless numbers?
 
ehild said:
You said that nCv=2,5 and nCp=3.5. Do you really think that the heat capacities are dimensionless numbers?
Oh sorry i forgot...nCv=2,5R and nCp=3R. R=GAS CONSTANT
 
shrutiphysics said:
Oh sorry i forgot...nCv=2,5R and nCp=3R. R=GAS CONSTANT
Cv=2.5R and Cp=3.5R. And Q= C n ΔT.
 

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