Molar mass, atm, pressure, find mass. HELP

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the mass of nitrogen gas given its molar mass, pressure, volume, and temperature. The context is rooted in gas laws, specifically the ideal gas law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss converting pressure from atmospheres to pascals and question the correct temperature conversion to Kelvin. There are attempts to apply the ideal gas law, with some participants expressing confusion over their calculations and the methodology used.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing calculations and seeking clarification on the correct application of the ideal gas law. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for absolute temperature and the proper use of units, but no consensus has been reached on the final mass calculation.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of specific values for pressure in pascals and the need to ensure temperature is in Kelvin. Participants also note discrepancies in the calculated mass compared to provided answer choices.

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Homework Statement



A nitrogen in the container (molar mass is 28 g/mol) has a pressure of 2.5 atm, a volume of 0.2 m3, and a temperature of 300C. What is the mass of the nitrogen?

Homework Equations



first figure how many
moles there are

n=PV/RT

however, i need to use Pressure, Pa, and not in atmospheres.

The Attempt at a Solution


how do i figure the pressure in Pa, and not atm. or can I use atm?
hmmmm
 
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i did its 101.3 or 103.1. but either way i couldn't come up with correct answer... :( can u show me how to solve this.. ?
 
VP/RT
.2*253312.5/(8.31*303)= # of moles,
multiplied by 28 grams per mole

*(28)
563.37944
 
teggenspiller said:
i did its 101.3 or 103.1. but either way i couldn't come up with correct answer... :( can u show me how to solve this.. ?

Your methodology looked okay to me. Try again, posting your calculations step by step.

Notes:
1. 1 atm = 101,325 pascals or 101.3 kPa
2. Make sure that your temperature is absolute (Kelvin).
 
okay thank you. one minute.
 
P= (253312.5) Pa
R=8.31 J/(mol K)
V= in Liters of m^3??
V= .2m^3 or 200Liters
T= 273.15+30 = 303.15

(253312.5) * ( .2) / (8.31J/(mol K) *(303.15)=
1848175.32*28g/mol

=51748908.8

much too big
 
I thought that your temperature was 300C? You've used 30 :confused:

The formula is n = p*v/(R*T) ; you have to divide by temperature, not multiply!
 
ha okay
 
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jeez i completely missed that. thnaks!
 
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i still am not geting the right thing? do i times the final answer by the grams/mol (28//)
 
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teggenspiller said:
i still am not geting the right thing? do i times the final answer by the grams/mol (28//)

Yup. You should by now have n (from PV = nRT), and that's the number of moles. So number of moles multiplied by grams/mole will yield grams.
 
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A. 125 g
B. 258 g
C. 421 g
D. 582 g
E. 864 g
 
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teggenspiller said:
A. 125 g
B. 258 g
C. 421 g
D. 582 g
E. 864 g

I take it that these are the choices for answers to the question? If so, it looks to me like the correct answer corresponding to the initial values given in the problem statement is not in the list. :frown:

What final value for the grams of N2 did you calculate?

Is it possible that the starting values were modified to 'present a new problem'?
 

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