Moment about distributed load (trapezium)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the reactions at points A and B for a distributed load problem involving triangular and uniform loads. Initial calculations yielded incorrect values for reactions, prompting a review of the moment arms used for the uniform loads. Adjustments were made to the centroid locations, particularly for the last uniformly distributed load, which led to revised reaction values. Despite corrections, discrepancies remained between calculated and expected answers, indicating potential misunderstandings regarding centroid positions for the loads. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately determining centroid locations and moment arms in structural analysis.
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Homework Statement


i am asked to find the reaction at A and B ...
Here's my working :
15(3/2) +15(5) +15(6)+5(6/2)=RA +RB

moment about A = 15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(8) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(14) -RB(14) = 0
so , i have my RB=148.9N , RA= 53.5N , which is wrong ? which part of my working is nt correct?
i have 15(3/2)(3x2/3) because the centroid is located 2/3 of 3m from the triangle .
I have (5x6/2)(8+4) because the centroid is located 8+(6x2/3) from A

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Your errors are not with the triangular load but with the uniform loads. Your moment arms from the cg of the uniform loads are incorrect.
 
PhanthomJay said:
Your errors are not with the triangular load but with the uniform loads. Your moment arms from the cg of the uniform loads are incorrect.
moment about A = 15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(3+2.5) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(12) -RB(14) = 0
now , my RB = 122.67 , which part is wrong again ?
 
Looks like the moment arm of the last uniformly distributed load is still wrong
 
goldfish9776 said:
so , i have my RB=148.9N , RA= 53.5N , which is wrong ?

Can you tell me the correct answers? It's been a while since I've looked at this kind of stuff.
 
goldfish9776 said:

Homework Statement


i am asked to find the reaction at A and B ...
Here's my working :
15(3/2) +15(5) +15(6)+5(6/2)=RA +RB

moment about A = 15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(8) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(14) -RB(14) = 0
so , i have my RB=148.9N , RA= 53.5N , which is wrong ? which part of my working is nt correct?
i have 15(3/2)(3x2/3) because the centroid is located 2/3 of 3m from the triangle .
The centroid of the first triangular load is located @ (2/3) * 3 m from the toe of the triangle, or point A.
I have (5x6/2)(8+4) because the centroid is located 8+(6x2/3) from A
This load calculation and location of the centroid from point A is correct.
goldfish9776 said:
moment about A = 15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(3+2.5) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(12) -RB(14) = 0
now , my RB = 122.67 , which part is wrong again ?
This part of the UDL is OK:
(15)(5)(3+2.5)

Did you check the location of the centroid for this part of the UDL?:
(15)(6)(12)

The left end of this UDL starts at 8 m from point A and ends at 14 m from point A. Is 12 m midway between these two locations?
 
Never mind. I figured it out.
 
SteamKing said:
The centroid of the first triangular load is located @ (2/3) * 3 m from the toe of the triangle, or point A.

This load calculation and location of the centroid from point A is correct.

This part of the UDL is OK:
(15)(5)(3+2.5)

Did you check the location of the centroid for this part of the UDL?:
(15)(6)(12)

The left end of this UDL starts at 8 m from point A and ends at 14 m from point A. Is 12 m midway between these two locations?
After changing the third part of location of centroid to11, I have (15)(3/2)(3*2/3)+ (15)(5)(5.5) + (15)(6)(11) + (5)(6/2)(11) -FB(14)=0...
FB=115.17N , RA=87.3N , which is still different from the ans given
 
My answers are slightly different.

You had this:
15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(3+2.5) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(12) -RB(14) = 0
And SteamKing told you you had only one error. Now you have this:
(15)(3/2)(3*2/3)+ (15)(5)(5.5) + (15)(6)(11) + (5)(6/2)(11) -FB(14)=0

You have changed more than one thing! I'm not sure if I'm using the right terminology here, but between the positions of 8 m and 14 m you have a UDL of 15 kN, and above it a triangular load. Note that the centroid of the rectangle and the centroid of the triangle have different positions.
 

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