Moment about distributed load (trapezium)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the reactions at supports A and B for a beam subjected to a distributed load, including a trapezoidal load. Participants are analyzing their calculations and the locations of centroids for various loads.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate reaction forces using moments about point A and are questioning the accuracy of their moment arms for different loads. There are discussions about the centroids of triangular and uniform loads and their respective distances from point A.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, pointing out potential errors in the moment arms used for uniform loads. There is ongoing exploration of the correct positions for centroids, and while some participants have made adjustments to their calculations, there is no clear consensus on the final answers yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also mention of differing answers and the need to verify assumptions regarding centroid locations.

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Homework Statement


i am asked to find the reaction at A and B ...
Here's my working :
15(3/2) +15(5) +15(6)+5(6/2)=RA +RB

moment about A = 15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(8) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(14) -RB(14) = 0
so , i have my RB=148.9N , RA= 53.5N , which is wrong ? which part of my working is nt correct?
i have 15(3/2)(3x2/3) because the centroid is located 2/3 of 3m from the triangle .
I have (5x6/2)(8+4) because the centroid is located 8+(6x2/3) from A

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Your errors are not with the triangular load but with the uniform loads. Your moment arms from the cg of the uniform loads are incorrect.
 
PhanthomJay said:
Your errors are not with the triangular load but with the uniform loads. Your moment arms from the cg of the uniform loads are incorrect.
moment about A = 15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(3+2.5) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(12) -RB(14) = 0
now , my RB = 122.67 , which part is wrong again ?
 
Looks like the moment arm of the last uniformly distributed load is still wrong
 
goldfish9776 said:
so , i have my RB=148.9N , RA= 53.5N , which is wrong ?

Can you tell me the correct answers? It's been a while since I've looked at this kind of stuff.
 
goldfish9776 said:

Homework Statement


i am asked to find the reaction at A and B ...
Here's my working :
15(3/2) +15(5) +15(6)+5(6/2)=RA +RB

moment about A = 15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(8) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(14) -RB(14) = 0
so , i have my RB=148.9N , RA= 53.5N , which is wrong ? which part of my working is nt correct?
i have 15(3/2)(3x2/3) because the centroid is located 2/3 of 3m from the triangle .
The centroid of the first triangular load is located @ (2/3) * 3 m from the toe of the triangle, or point A.
I have (5x6/2)(8+4) because the centroid is located 8+(6x2/3) from A
This load calculation and location of the centroid from point A is correct.
goldfish9776 said:
moment about A = 15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(3+2.5) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(12) -RB(14) = 0
now , my RB = 122.67 , which part is wrong again ?
This part of the UDL is OK:
(15)(5)(3+2.5)

Did you check the location of the centroid for this part of the UDL?:
(15)(6)(12)

The left end of this UDL starts at 8 m from point A and ends at 14 m from point A. Is 12 m midway between these two locations?
 
Never mind. I figured it out.
 
SteamKing said:
The centroid of the first triangular load is located @ (2/3) * 3 m from the toe of the triangle, or point A.

This load calculation and location of the centroid from point A is correct.

This part of the UDL is OK:
(15)(5)(3+2.5)

Did you check the location of the centroid for this part of the UDL?:
(15)(6)(12)

The left end of this UDL starts at 8 m from point A and ends at 14 m from point A. Is 12 m midway between these two locations?
After changing the third part of location of centroid to11, I have (15)(3/2)(3*2/3)+ (15)(5)(5.5) + (15)(6)(11) + (5)(6/2)(11) -FB(14)=0...
FB=115.17N , RA=87.3N , which is still different from the ans given
 
My answers are slightly different.

You had this:
15(3/2)(3x2/3) + (15)(5)(3+2.5) + (5x6/2)(8+4) + (15)(6)(12) -RB(14) = 0
And SteamKing told you you had only one error. Now you have this:
(15)(3/2)(3*2/3)+ (15)(5)(5.5) + (15)(6)(11) + (5)(6/2)(11) -FB(14)=0

You have changed more than one thing! I'm not sure if I'm using the right terminology here, but between the positions of 8 m and 14 m you have a UDL of 15 kN, and above it a triangular load. Note that the centroid of the rectangle and the centroid of the triangle have different positions.
 

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