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The problem involves two independent exponentially distributed random variables, X and Y, with parameters λa=2 and λb=3, respectively. The task is to find the expected value of W, defined as the maximum of X and Y, raised to the power of k (E(W^k)), as well as a specific probability involving the ratio of X and Y.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the probability density function (pdf) of W and its moment generating function. There are attempts to derive E(W^k) through integration involving the pdf. Some participants express confusion about the correct approach to calculate these expectations.

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Several participants have shared their attempts at finding the pdf of W and calculating E(W^k). There is a mix of approaches being explored, with some participants questioning the integration methods and others providing insights into the expected values for exponential distributions. No consensus has been reached on the best method to proceed.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide to one another. There is also a focus on ensuring clarity in the definitions and calculations related to the exponential distributions involved.

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Homework Statement


X is distributed exponentially with λa=2. Y is distributed exponentially with λb = 3. X and Y are independent.
Let W=max(X,Y), the time until both persons catch their first fish. Let k be a positive integer. Find E(W^k).

Also, find P{(1/3)<X/(X+Y)<(1/2)}


Homework Equations


f(X) = λa e^(-λa x)
f(Y) = λb e^(-λb y)
f(X,Y) = f(X)f(Y)
Mx(t) = E(e^t)
Mx^k(0)=E(W^k)


The Attempt at a Solution


I found f(w)=3e^(-3w)+2e^(-2w)-5e^(-2w-3w) but not sure where to go from here
 
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Having found the pdf of W, how do you calculate its moment generating function?
(You quote that it's E[et], but it's E[etW].)
 
That's correct, sorry, typo on my part. It's actually where to go from there that confuses me. I know the ∫0 to ∞((e^tw)f(w)dw gives me Mw(t), so I think ∫0 to ∞ ((w^k)f(w))dw should give me E(W^k), but I don't know how to actually find this or if it is the best way to approach it.

Also, I got the second probability part on my own. I really just need help with the E(W^k).
 
I have f(w) = 3e^(-3w)+2e^(-2w)-5e^(-5w), w>0 for the pdf, but I am not sure how to proceed to E(W^k) from here.
 
Aaron10 said:

Homework Statement


X is distributed exponentially with λa=2. Y is distributed exponentially with λb = 3. X and Y are independent.
Let W=max(X,Y), the time until both persons catch their first fish. Let k be a positive integer. Find E(W^k).

Also, find P{(1/3)<X/(X+Y)<(1/2)}


Homework Equations


f(X) = λa e^(-λa x)
f(Y) = λb e^(-λb y)
f(X,Y) = f(X)f(Y)
Mx(t) = E(e^t)
Mx^k(0)=E(W^k)


The Attempt at a Solution


I found f(w)=3e^(-3w)+2e^(-2w)-5e^(-2w-3w) but not sure where to go from here
In other words,
f(w) = 2e^{-2w} + 3 e^{-3w} - 5e^{-5w} = f_2(w) +f_3(w) - f_5(w), where f_r(w) is the exponential density for rate r. Do you know how to compute
E_r(W^k) \equiv \int_0^{\infty} r e^{-rw} w^k \, dw ?
 
Ray Vickson said:
In other words,
f(w) = 2e^{-2w} + 3 e^{-3w} - 5e^{-5w} = f_2(w) +f_3(w) - f_5(w), where f_r(w) is the exponential density for rate r. Do you know how to compute
E_r(W^k) \equiv \int_0^{\infty} r e^{-rw} w^k \, dw ?

My solution: E(X^k) for an exponential is k!/(λ^k), so E(W^k) = k!/(3^k)+k!/(2^k)-k!/(5^k) = k!(10^k + 15^k - 6^k)/(30^k). Say λ=r, and this is exactly what you are saying, yes?
 
If not, then I am not sure how to compute an integral involving (w^k)e^(-rw)...
 
Aria1 said:
My solution: E(X^k) for an exponential is k!/(λ^k), so E(W^k) = k!/(3^k)+k!/(2^k)-k!/(5^k) = k!(10^k + 15^k - 6^k)/(30^k). Say λ=r, and this is exactly what you are saying, yes?

Just to be accurate: No, you are saying it, not me. However, your result is correct.
 

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