Momentum Concepts: Clearing Up Frictionless Surfaces Questions

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The discussion revolves around concepts of momentum and motion involving a block sliding down a wedge on a frictionless surface, as well as the effects of equal forces acting on two bodies of unequal mass on a frictionless surface.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the motion of the center of mass of a block-wedge system and question the effects of forces on bodies of different masses. There is a focus on understanding the implications of conservation of momentum and the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration.

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Some participants have provided insights into the motion of the center of mass, while others have raised questions about the correctness of these insights, particularly regarding the conservation of momentum. The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on specific scenarios.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about external forces and the implications of motion in a frictionless environment. There is also a mention of a misunderstanding that has prompted further inquiry about the scenario when the block leaves the wedge.

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Can anyone help to clear these up for me ?

If you have a wedge on a horizontal frictionless surface, a block starts from rest and slides down the inclined surface of the wedge, is rough. During the motion of the block the center mass of the block and wedge ---
- would it be moving horizontally with increasing speed ?

and...

Two bodies of unequal mass are at rest on a frictionless surface, and are acted on by equal forces for equal times. Just after these forces are removed, the body with greater mass will...
- greater acceleration or speed, or smaller momentum?
For this one i want to say greater acceleration but can anyone explain if this is right ?
 
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For your first question, yes, the centre of mass of the body would be accelerating horizontally in the opposite direction to the motion of the block.

(2) For this question, think about the relationship [itex]F = ma[/itex].
 
Hootenanny said:
For your first question, yes, the centre of mass of the body would be accelerating horizontally in the opposite direction to the motion of the block.

(2) For this question, think about the relationship [itex]F = ma[/itex].

With all due respect I believe your answer for the first question is incorrect. There are no net external forces (in the horizontal direction) acting on the block-wedge system. Thus the momentum of the overall system will be conserved, and the CM will stay where it is.

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
With all due respect I believe your answer for the first question is incorrect. There are no net external forces (in the horizontal direction) acting on the block-wedge system. Thus the momentum of the overall system will be conserved, and the CM will stay where it is.

-Dan

Yes, my apologies, I've misunderstood. Just for my piece of mind, what would happen when the block left the wedge?
 

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