Momentum conservation of asteroid in a dust cloud

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The discussion focuses on the momentum conservation of a spherical asteroid moving through a dust cloud, specifically addressing the equations governing its velocity change over time. The key equation derived is \(\frac{dv}{dt} = -kv^{3}\), where \(k\) is evaluated based on the asteroid's cross-sectional area \(A_{c} = 2\pi R\) and the dust density \(D\). Participants emphasize the importance of correctly defining mass change \(dm\) as a function of velocity, leading to the conclusion that \(m(t) = m_{0} - dm \cdot t\) requires careful consideration of units and dependencies on velocity.

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  • Understanding of classical mechanics principles, particularly momentum conservation.
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  • Basic grasp of density concepts in physics, specifically mass per unit volume.
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Note: this is one of the suggested practice problems for my second-year classical mechanics course.

Homework Statement
A spherical asteroid of mass m_{0} and radius R, initially moving at speed v_{0}, encounters a stationary cloud of dust. As the asteroid moves through the cloud, it collects all the dust that it hits, and slows down as a result. Ignore the increase in radius of the asteroid, and its gravitational effect on distant dust grains. Asume a uniform average density D (mass per unit volume) in the dust cloud.

a)show that \frac{dv}{dt} = -kv^{3} and evaluate k.
b) find v(t)

The attempt at a solution

Let A_{c} = 2*\pi*R be the cross-sectional area of the asteroid.

Conservation of momentum:
m_{0}v_{0} = m(t) v(t)
dm = (\pi R^2)*(v(t)dt)*D
dm is from mass of dust which the asteroid hits in time dt. Cross-sectional area * distance traveled in time dt * dust density.

I'm not sure where to go from here. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 
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LANS said:
m(t) = m_{0} - dm*t
Where did this equation come from? It doesn't really make sense (and besides, the units are inconsistent, so at least that needs to be fixed).
LANS said:
dm = (2 \pi R)*(v(t)dt)*D
dm is from mass of dust which the asteroid hits in time dt. Cross-sectional area * distance traveled in time dt * dust density.
What's the cross-sectional area of a sphere? Remember that it has to have the proper units for area :wink:
 
Fixed first post.
 
diazona said:
Where did this equation come from? It doesn't really make sense (and besides, the units are inconsistent, so at least that needs to be fixed).

<br /> m(t) = m_{0} - dm*t<br />

Thanks, didn't quite think about that one. Forgot to consider that the amount of mass the asteroid picks up in a set amount of time is dependent on its velocity, and is thus not a constant term.
 
You should respond in your new post rather than going back and changing what you previously posted - not only because it makes it possible for others to follow the discussion, but also because editing your original post after it's been replied to is a violation of the PF guidelines.

Anyway, what is the value of this expression?
\frac{\mathrm{d}(mv)}{\mathrm{d}t}
The resulting equation will be useful to you. Together with the two that are currently in your original post, it will allow you to solve the problem.
 
Alternatively (really the same as from diazona in the end, but slightly different initially), note that m = m0v0/v, so what's dm in terms of dv?

From part a) onwards you just have to solve the simple ODE.
 

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