Momentum. Kinetic energy lost in the collision.

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The discussion focuses on the collision of a railroad car of mass M moving at speed v1 with two coupled railroad cars, each of mass M moving at speed v2. The final speed vf of the three coupled cars after the collision is derived as (M*v1 + 2*M*v2) / (3M). The kinetic energy lost during the collision is expressed as 1/2*M*[-2/3*v1^2 + 4/3*v1*v2 - 2/3*v2^2], with emphasis on the importance of noting the change in kinetic energy rather than the lost kinetic energy itself.

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A railroad car of mass M moving at a speed v1 collides and couples with two coupled railroad cars, each of the same mass M and moving in the same direction at a speed v2.

(a) What is the speed vf of the three coupled cars after the collision in terms of v1 and v2? (Use M, v_1 for v1, and v_2 for v2 as appropriate.)

a) (M*v_1+M*v_2+M*v_2)/(3M)

(b) How much kinetic energy is lost in the collision? Answer in terms of M, v1, and v2. (Use M, v_1 for v1, and v_2 for v2 as appropriate.)

b) I don't get this I had this for the answer. 1/2*M*[-2/3*v_1^2 +4/3*v_1*v_2-2/3v_2^2]
but it is wrong...

thanks
 
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qwerty159 said:
A railroad car of mass M moving at a speed v1 collides and couples with two coupled railroad cars, each of the same mass M and moving in the same direction at a speed v2.

(a) What is the speed vf of the three coupled cars after the collision in terms of v1 and v2? (Use M, v_1 for v1, and v_2 for v2 as appropriate.)

a) (M*v_1+M*v_2+M*v_2)/(3M)
While the expression is correct, you can simplify it some more.
(b) How much kinetic energy is lost in the collision? Answer in terms of M, v1, and v2. (Use M, v_1 for v1, and v_2 for v2 as appropriate.)

b) I don't get this I had this for the answer. 1/2*M*[-2/3*v_1^2 +4/3*v_1*v_2-2/3v_2^2]
but it is wrong...
Can you show how you arrived at your result?
 
qwerty159 said:
b) I don't get this I had this for the answer. 1/2*M*[-2/3*v_1^2 +4/3*v_1*v_2-2/3v_2^2]
but it is wrong...

thanks

Note the sign: It is the change of KE, not the lost KE.
And simplify the expression.

ehild
 

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