More volume of a washer cross section(integration)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of a solid formed by rotating the area bounded by the curves y = x² and x = y² around the line y = -1. The user initially attempted both the washer and cylindrical methods but encountered issues with negative volume results and determining the shell radius for the cylindrical method. The correct approach for the cylindrical method involves using the radius as y + 1. The final volume calculation using the washer method was incorrectly derived due to the order of subtraction, leading to a negative value.

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Homework Statement



Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified axis.


Homework Equations



[itex]y = x^2, x = y^2[/itex] about [itex]y = -1[/itex]


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried using both cylindrical and washer methods - but for cylindrical I couldn't figure out what the shell radius would be, so I switched to washer.

[itex]\pi\int_0^1(x^2+1)^2 - (√x+1)^2 dx[/itex]
[itex]\pi\int_0^1 x^4 + 2x^2 - x - 2√x dx[/itex]
[itex]\pi(x^5/5 + (2x^3)/3 - x^2/2 - (4x[/itex]^3/2[itex]))/3)[/itex]
[itex]\pi(1/5 + 2/3 - 1/2 - 4/3)[/itex]
[itex]-29\pi/30[/itex]

And I get a negative volume. Any ideas?
EDIT: Ah. I just noticed I subtracted in the wrong order - would that fix it?
Edit2: Also, would you mind helping me with using the cylindrical method for this? Because I wasn't able to narrow down the shell radius - there was always a little unknown portion.
 
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Neutrinogun said:

Homework Statement



Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified axis.

Homework Equations



[itex]y = x^2, x = y^2[/itex] about [itex]y = -1[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried using both cylindrical and washer methods - but for cylindrical I couldn't figure out what the shell radius would be, so I switched to washer.

[itex]\pi\int_0^1(x^2+1)^2 - (√x+1)^2 dx[/itex]
[itex]\pi\int_0^1 x^4 + 2x^2 - x - 2√x dx[/itex]
[itex]\pi(x^5/5 + (2x^3)/3 - x^2/2 - (4x[/itex]^3/2[itex]))/3)[/itex]
[itex]\pi(1/5 + 2/3 - 1/2 - 4/3)[/itex]
[itex]-29\pi/30[/itex]

And I get a negative volume. Any ideas?
EDIT: Ah. I just noticed I subtracted in the wrong order - would that fix it?
Edit2: Also, would you mind helping me with using the cylindrical method for this? Because I wasn't able to narrow down the shell radius - there was always a little unknown portion.
For the cylindrical method, the radius is y - (-1), which is y + 1 .
 

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