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The discussion revolves around the exploration of various engineering disciplines and their potential for creativity and innovation. Participants share their experiences and opinions on mechanical, aerospace, electrical, and computer engineering, as well as the challenges and rewards associated with these fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their intended major in computer science, questioning its connection to pure science due to the prevalence of software layers.
  • Another suggests pursuing mechanical or aerospace engineering, particularly with defense contractors, as a way to work on innovative projects.
  • Some participants argue that a degree in computer science can also lead to building exciting projects, referencing the film "iRobot" as an example.
  • A participant shares their experience of enjoying research and design in engineering, emphasizing the necessity of enduring mundane coursework to reach interesting projects.
  • Another participant advocates for mechanical engineering as the broadest discipline, while cautioning against pursuing careers related to weapons, suggesting a focus on problem-solving instead.
  • One participant describes their research on novel materials with life-saving applications, highlighting the mix of skills required in their work.
  • Concerns are raised about job competition in research fields, particularly regarding the prevalence of PhD holders in engineering research roles.
  • A participant mentions the importance of finding interesting projects early in university to guide career paths and research opportunities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on the best engineering discipline to pursue, with no clear consensus on which field is the most enjoyable or rewarding. Some advocate for mechanical engineering, while others highlight the potential of computer science and electrical engineering. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path for creativity and innovation in engineering.

Contextual Notes

Participants' views are influenced by personal experiences and perceptions of job markets, educational pathways, and the nature of engineering work. There are mentions of competition in research fields and the necessity of foundational coursework, but these points are not universally agreed upon.

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Students considering engineering majors, individuals interested in the creative aspects of engineering, and those exploring career paths in STEM fields may find this discussion relevant.

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Currently in 2nd year of college, and just now being exposed to calculus based physics: my intended major was computer science, but now I'm not sure.

Basically, I want to build stuff that makes people say "holy crap". The problem is that I'm not sure what would be best.

If I go mech engineer, I'd probably be working somewhere in the auto industry, and what I make would be heavily restricted to focus groups of consumers... but I'm not sure.

The thing that worries me is how far away from pure science "computer science" is now. There are so many software layers on top of the hardware now, that it seems like all people are doing is just figuring out how to make someone else's software do something differently. Is it really even science if you're just memorizing protocols and syntax someone else made up?

Honestly, I just want to be Iron Man. That pretty much sums it up. I'd like to build stuff on an unlimited budget with undeserved government money. Is that unrealistic?

Advice appreciated.

*note: this post may seem goofy, but I mean it in all seriousness. I'd like to pick something where I can work 18 hour days, 10 of them on my own time, building something "woah"-ish. I don't mind hard work as long as there's creativity involved.
 
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Get a degree in mechanical or aerospace engineering and go work for a defense contractor? They make plenty of crazy stuff.
 
cdotter said:
Get a degree in mechanical or aerospace engineering and go work for a defense contractor? They make plenty of crazy stuff.

Most definitely. But just because you have a degree in CS doesn't mean you can't build crazy cool stuff too. Have you ever seen the movie iRobot?
 
Good luck with the end result. I've reached the point where I get paid to research and design interesting things and let me tell you, it's fantastic.

The hard part is getting there. If you only want to do the 'interesting' parts, you'll have to get through all the mundane things you'll be taught during your education. As a mechanical engineer, I was more interested in the materials side of the course - but I still had to learn advanced fluid mechanics and several programming languages that I now no longer use. It will be the same in every course, even CS. Luckily you might come across something that you never thought you'd enjoy but suddenly do.

I personally think engineering degrees are generally more rounded than pure computing courses, and I think most people probably stand a better chance of doing something really innovative if they were to study engineering. As for which one would suit you, my suggestion would be to get in contact with a good university near you that offers a variety of disciplines and ask them if you can come for a tour of each of them.
 
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Good luck with the end result. I've reached the point where I get paid to research and design interesting things and let me tell you, it's fantastic.

The hard part is getting there. If you only want to do the 'interesting' parts, you'll have to get through all the mundane things you'll be taught during your education. As a mechanical engineer, I was more interested in the materials side of the course - but I still had to learn advanced fluid mechanics and several programming languages that I now no longer use. It will be the same in every course, even CS. Luckily you might come across something that you never thought you'd enjoy but suddenly do.

I personally think engineering degrees are generally more rounded than pure computing courses, and I think most people probably stand a better chance of doing something really innovative if they were to study engineering. As for which one would suit you, my suggestion would be to get in contact with a good university near you that offers a variety of disciplines and ask them if you can come for a tour of each of them.

Thanks for the info. If you don't mind me asking, what do you do on a daily basis?
 
I'd get an electrical degree and then do embedded software with things like robots. That is a blast.
 
I would say mechanical engineering because I feel its the broadest of all the different types. I would say never pursue anything related with weapons, because although it's very lucrative, the world doesn't need that. The world needs problem solvers to fix its problems.

I am currently majoring in electrical-mechanical engineering.
 
I research the dynamic behaviour of a variety of new materials - for example some of them show negative Poisson's ratios (materials that grow laterally under uniaxial tension as opposed to shrinking), extreme rate dependence, nano-scale structures etc. The experimental side of the work involves ballistic, explosive, and impact testing. And the analytical side involves designing structures and devices with commercial or military uses, generally with a view to saving lives.

I enjoy it, mainly because it's working with novel materials, in a field with potentially life-saving applications, and it requires a mix of different skills and techniques. So I'm not just in front of a computer designing a railway bogie or a pump!
 
Hmoob said:
I am currently majoring in electrical-mechanical engineering.
Is that a degree programme under the EE department or Mech-E department?
 
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timmay said:
I research the dynamic behaviour of a variety of new materials - for example some of them show negative Poisson's ratios (materials that grow laterally under uniaxial tension as opposed to shrinking), extreme rate dependence, nano-scale structures etc. The experimental side of the work involves ballistic, explosive, and impact testing. And the analytical side involves designing structures and devices with commercial or military uses, generally with a view to saving lives.

I enjoy it, mainly because it's working with novel materials, in a field with potentially life-saving applications, and it requires a mix of different skills and techniques. So I'm not just in front of a computer designing a railway bogie or a pump!

Wow... that actually sounds AWESOME. Don't you have like, 500000 other people trying to get a job in that field? I always thought about mech engr, but I don't want to have to compete with PhD's for 40k a year.

p.s. Hire me. I'm awesome at taking orders for Starbucks.
 
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The best way (in my experience and those of my colleagues) to get into a research job in something that you enjoy is to find something new and interesting in your early years at university. I was quite lucky in that I had a literature review project early on in my degree and I chose to do it on crashworthiness, which got me interested in the area of high speed testing and materials. That kinda snowballed and the projects I kept taking were always somehow related, generally ones that I devised myself. Through one of my projects I got involved with a pretty big company, and they were kind enough (and interested enough commercially!) to sponsor my research position.

Don't know how the system works where you are, but in the UK most PHD students themselves are funded to the tune of approximately $35k - $40k equivalent (when you take into account that you're not getting taxed). So a lot of the PHD students here are getting paid a reasonable wage, have guaranteed funding for 3 years and get to work on projects that interest them and that they can take in whatever direction they choose.

Unfortunately in this country, most research jobs do tend to be taken by PHDs, then Masters. Certainly in engineering research, most of the Tony Starks of this world seem to have a doctorate!
 
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CaptainADHD said:
Wow... that actually sounds AWESOME. Don't you have like, 500000 other people trying to get a job in that field? I always thought about mech engr, but I don't want to have to compete with PhD's for 40k a year.

p.s. Hire me. I'm awesome at taking orders for Starbucks.

You can build cool stuff like this:



Anyways, don't worry to much about Job competition and focus more on obtaining knowledge and skills to apply to the working environment. When you're an Engineer, you get your butt into the Industry, gain your experience, make the big money and then try to get out on your own terms. The worst thing you want to have happen is to stick around (the 40 - 50 yrs of age) for too long only to be phased out by the young, up and coming Engineering Puppies that are fresh out of school. Get a position in management, go into business, and or even academia to research and teach. No matter what career you choose, always have a exit plan when things don't turn out the way you want it.
 
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How much would you guys think a nanotechnology minor or a math minor help an electrical engineering major skill wise or in developing a better knowledge for the work enviorment out there?
 
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Aerospace engineering crew holla!
 
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Hippo said:

You can build cool stuff like this:



Anyways, don't worry to much about Job competition and focus more on obtaining knowledge and skills to apply to the working environment. When you're an Engineer, you get your butt into the Industry, gain your experience, make the big money and then try to get out on your own terms. The worst thing you want to have happen is to stick around (the 40 - 50 yrs of age) for too long only to be phased out by the young, up and coming Engineering Puppies that are fresh out of school. Get a position in management, go into business, and or even academia to research and teach. No matter what career you choose, always have a exit plan when things don't turn out the way you want it.


Who do you think is more useful: a 24 year old that knows the latest software and just graduated, or the 40-50ish person who has been doing engineering for years?
 
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Hippo said:
Anyways, don't worry to much about Job competition and focus more on obtaining knowledge and skills to apply to the working environment. When you're an Engineer, you get your butt into the Industry, gain your experience, make the big money and then try to get out on your own terms. The worst thing you want to have happen is to stick around (the 40 - 50 yrs of age) for too long only to be phased out by the young, up and coming Engineering Puppies that are fresh out of school. Get a position in management, go into business, and or even academia to research and teach. No matter what career you choose, always have a exit plan when things don't turn out the way you want it.

This is the best advice I have heard in a while.
 

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