Motion of a cylinder attatched to a spring

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The problem involves determining the equation of motion and natural frequency of a uniform cylinder rolling without slipping on a horizontal plane, constrained by a spring. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the relationship between the displacement of the cylinder's center and the extension of the spring.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand why the spring extends by 2x when the center of the cylinder moves by x. Some participants suggest visualizing the scenario with a diagram to clarify the relationship between linear displacement and the arc length due to rolling.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights that help clarify the original poster's confusion. The original poster expresses relief upon receiving feedback, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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The original poster references worked solutions but is struggling with a specific aspect of the problem related to the spring's extension. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the rolling motion of the cylinder.

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Homework Statement



Determine the equation of motion and the natural frequency of vibration for A uniform cylinder of mass M, rolling without slipping on a horizontal plane and constrained by a spring of stiffness K, as shown.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/613/cylinder.png

2. The attempt at a solution

So I am now in full on revision mode, and I have the worked solutions to the problem:

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9987/cylinder1.png

Although I can follow most of the solution, I don't understand why the spring extends by 2x if the centre moves by x?

Thanks very much
 
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However much x the center of the cylinder shifts, since it rolls without slipping it must turn through an angle so that it rolls along an equal length x of its circumference. Where the spring attaches experiences both the linear shift and the corresponding amount of arc length. If you draw a diagram showing the profile of the cylinder in both positions, you'll see that the result is a total length of 2x.
 
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, amazing amazing.

Thank you so much, was getting myself really worked up about that.
 
I'm really sorry to bring this up, but I have found out where I have been going wrong in this problem - and it is the 2x bit, but I still don't understand why the spring stretches by 2x?
So the spring moves horizontally x, so therefore the spring stretches by x, but since the cylinder is rolling... ah I think I understand having posted this, sorry!
 

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