Move a Part at Constant Speed Under its Own Weight

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenge of designing a system that allows a hanging weight to move at a constant speed of 1 m/s under its own weight. The conversation explores various mechanisms and conditions that could facilitate this motion, including the effects of friction, air resistance, and the use of counterweights.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the specifics of the movement and constraints, indicating a need for more details to understand the problem.
  • Another participant suggests assuming a frictionless environment and proposes that a horizontal line would allow for constant speed under gravity's influence.
  • There is a consideration of terminal velocity in relation to air resistance or friction, with a suggestion that a counterweight system might be relevant.
  • A participant clarifies their goal of designing a wire apparatus that balances forces to achieve a constant velocity of 1 m/s, regardless of varying weights.
  • One idea proposed involves a flyball governor mechanism that uses braking forces to regulate the speed of the falling weight.
  • A later reply mentions the existence of commercially available devices that may achieve the desired effect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the original question and propose different mechanisms to achieve constant speed. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach or the specifics of the design.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights ambiguities in the initial question, including the lack of defined constraints and the variability of the weights involved. The assumptions about friction and environmental conditions also remain unresolved.

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This discussion may be of interest to those involved in mechanical design, physics, or engineering, particularly in contexts related to motion control and weight management systems.

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How can I make a hanging weight attached to a wire move at a constant speed under its own weight? The mass of the weight may vary and is not known beforehand.
 
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Move where? What are the constraints on control? You haven't provided enough details for us to know what you are trying to do and what the constraints are.
 
My guess is to assume a frictionless environment. The question then becomes what is the shape of the curve that provides constant speed under the influence of gravity. The answer is a horizontal line, essentially eliminating any influence from gravity.

If friction or aerodyanmic drag is allowed, than any straight line path will result in some terminal velocity, but initially the object will be accelerating.
 
It is a little ambiguous what exactly is being asked. Constant velocity implies no net force, so your question makes me think about terminal velocity which is established through air resistance, or some sort of friction between the wire and something else. Alternatively, perhaps a counter weight of identical mass on the other side of a pulley is what your getting at.
 
Ok. Sorry, you guys are right my first question was really vague. Here's a better description of what I'm trying to achieve. I want to design a wire apparatus that lowers a weight using the mass of the weight as the force, but then somehow achieves a balance of forces when the velocity reaches 1 m/s. This is simple enough using friction (I think), but the problem is that different weights will be put on this apparatus under different conditions, and the terminal velocity for each has to be 1 m/s.
 
How about a variation of a flyball governor, wherein the flying weights have brake pad material on the leading edges and contact a surrounding cylinder? The faster it tries to fall, the more braking force is applied.
 

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