Undergrad Multistage continuous Rocket Eqn

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The discussion focuses on the motion of a rocket that continuously discards structural and engine mass at zero velocity relative to itself, which results in no acceleration. Two assumptions are proposed for modeling this scenario: one where mass is ejected in discrete chunks, allowing the application of the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation piecewise, and another where mass is ejected continuously in proportion to burnt fuel, enabling the calculation of an effective exhaust velocity. The latter approach involves determining a momentum ejection rate and applying it to the rocket equation over the total burn. The conversation emphasizes neglecting drag and gravitational losses for simplification. Overall, the analysis aims to clarify the dynamics of mass ejection in rocket motion.
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So if you have a rocket let's say that discards all the structural and engine mass continuously at zero velocity that is relative to the rocket until only the payload is traveling at the final velocity - then what will the equation of motion will look like? we can neglect the drag and gravitational losses.
 
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So if you have a rocket let's say that discards all the structural and engine mass continuously at zero velocity that is relative to the rocket until only the payload is traveling at the final velocity - then what will the equation of motion will look like? we can neglect the drag and gravitational losses.
You could make either of two assumptions.

1. The structure and engine mass are ejected in discrete chunks. i.e. stage 1 is burned out over time then the useless structure and engine are discarded instantly. In this case you can apply the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation piecewise over each burn.

2. The structure and engine mass are dropped continuously and in proportion to the burnt fuel/ejected reaction mass. In this case you can multiply the exhaust mass flow rate by the exhaust velocity to get a momentum ejection rate. Then divide by the combined (and proportional!) engine+superstructure ejection rate to get an "effective exhaust velocity". Plug that into the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation applied over the total burn.
 
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