Multivariable Max and min value problem.

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding local maxima, minima, and saddle points for the function f(x,y) = sin(x)sin(y) within the specified domain of -π < x < π and -π < y < π. The original poster is seeking assistance in identifying critical points based on the partial derivatives of the function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find critical points by setting the partial derivatives fx and fy to zero. They express uncertainty about identifying all critical points, having found (0,0), (π/2, π/2), and (-π/2, -π/2), and inquire if there are additional points.
  • Some participants question the original poster's understanding of critical points, clarifying that these points occur where the partial derivatives are zero or where the function is not differentiable.
  • There is a discussion about the conditions under which sine and cosine functions equal zero, prompting further exploration of the critical points.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications on the definitions and conditions for critical points. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the partial derivatives and the critical points, but no consensus or final resolution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has indicated familiarity with finding maxima, minima, and saddle points but is specifically struggling with the identification of critical points from the derivatives. The discussion is framed within the constraints of the given function and its defined domain.

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Homework Statement


find local max min and saddle point.
f(x,y)= sin(x)sin(y), -pi<x<pi, -pi<y<pi

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The Attempt at a Solution


fx = cos(x)sin(y)
fy= sin(x)cos(y)

now how do I get the critical points, I know how to get max min and saddle point, but I don't know how to get critical points from this equation. when fx fy = 0, we got the critical point, I know there is (0,0), how do I find the others. I got another points (pi/2,pi/2), (-pi/2,-pi/2). is there more?
 
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What do you mean by "fxfy= 0"? The product? A "critical point" is defined as a point where the function is not differentiable or where the partial derivatives are equal to 0. Since this function is obviously differentiable everywhere, its critical points are where cos(x)sin(y)= 0 and sin(x)cos(y)= 0. Since sin(x) and cos(x) can't be 0 at the same x, you must have either sin(x)=0 and sin(y)= 0 or cos(x)= 0 and cos(y)= 0. Where is sine 0?
 
fx is the derivative of the function respect to x
fy ........... y
Where is sine 0?
at zero sin is zero
 
yaho8888 said:
fx is the derivative of the function respect to x
fy ........... y
Where is sine 0?
at zero sin is zero

Your critical points will occur at points where both partials are zero. on the given intervals, what values of x and y will make both fx and fy zero?
 
solved!
 

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