Music Music I Can't Tolerate: Pet Peeves Revealed

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The discussion centers around strong aversions to specific music genres and styles. Participants express a dislike for dominant quarter note bass drum patterns, rap, ska, and modern pop music, often describing these genres as psychologically torturous or lacking depth. Autotune is criticized for its repetitive nature and perceived lack of creativity, with some exceptions noted. The conversation touches on personal experiences with music, including humorous anecdotes about how certain songs can evoke strong memories or emotions. There is a nostalgic reflection on past music trends and a consensus that many contemporary genres, particularly pop and rap, fail to meet artistic standards. Participants also share their preferences for classic rock and metal, highlighting a divide between older and modern music sensibilities. Overall, the thread reveals a deep passion for music, with strong opinions on what constitutes quality versus mediocrity.
  • #51
Judas Priest lives on in Japan, mostly in the guitar playing, but there is a vid of Halford singing along with Babymetal. Japan has taken the whole thing to the nth degree but the singing tends to be the weakness.

It was my impression that JP popularized metal lead guitar duets with the guitars playing harmony but this appears to have been wrong. So who did that?
 
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  • #52
My father used to say, "Judas Priest!" when he was annoyed. That is a "polite" alternative to "Jesus Christ!" which was (is?) swearing, the way my dad was raised.

I had a co-worker who actually said "jeepers!" I think that is an even more oblique reference, "JP" to "jee pee" to "jeepers."
 
  • #53
gmax137 said:
My father used to say, "Judas Priest!" when he was annoyed. That is a "polite" alternative to "Jesus Christ!" which was (is?) swearing, the way my dad was raised.

I had a co-worker who actually said "jeepers!" I think that is an even more oblique reference, "JP" to "jee pee" to "jeepers."
"jeepers" is a corruption of the name "Jesus" as well.

Where "jeepers creepers" comes from is beyond me.

-Dan
 
  • #54
Freyja said:
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner
Fits beautifully to Ghost Riders In The Sky.

You can even add
Yippee-aye-ay
Yippee-aye-aoh
I shot the al-ba-tros
s
 
  • #55
Hornbein said:
Judas Priest lives on in Japan, mostly in the guitar playing, but there is a vid of Halford singing along with Babymetal. Japan has taken the whole thing to the nth degree but the singing tends to be the weakness.

It was my impression that JP popularized metal lead guitar duets with the guitars playing harmony but this appears to have been wrong. So who did that?
The Eagles did that on Hotel California, Thin Lizzy did a lot of guitar duets also. The Alman brothers? Jessica has two in harmony I think.
Golden slumbers, The Beatles has John Paul George taking a solo at the end.
 
  • #56
Freyja said:
Epic songs, aren’t they? I had a funny? (or not lol) story about that Judas song. It cost me literally shy of $400 on a speeding ticket.

Long story short, it was a Sunday morning on an empty highway; everybody was in Church, and I was having a very rare great mood after a serious traumatic experience and a period of deep sadness. Took my old 86 NYorker (first car I ever had, loved everything about it) for a ride, it was a gorgeous day and I was feeling on top of the world listening to Freewheel Burning. Hauling my happy ass through the hwy, I missed the reduced speed sign as I was entering town limits. Sure enough, the cop car was right there, pulled me over and of course got me a ticket and a citation to go to Court. So to Court I went.

The Judge was this elderly gentleman, all dressed up in his Judge garb, serious and composed as you’d expect him to be. So he reads the charges and asks me how I’d plead, I told him: “Guilty as a kid caught red handed in the cookie jar, Your Honor”. Told him I wasn’t there to get away from it, but more so to ask the Court if I could pay the ticket in a few installments, since I knew it was going to be a salty matter. He asked me what happened, and I told him the whole truth: that I had been going through a very trying period in my personal life, and that day was a very bright one for some reason, plus Judas Priest helped to put me in such good mood. He stops for a second, looks at me and goes, with this charming look of nostalgia: “Ahhhh, Judas Priest, that explains everything”. I was dumbfounded, and asked him: “Do you really know Judas Priest, Your Honor?” And he goes: “Well, believe it or not, I do!” And of course all of us in his Court started laughing 😂

I asked to let me pay the ticket in 4 installments of $100 each, and he even said: “Look, just in case, I’m going to order installments of $75, so you don’t get very overwhelmed; if you can pay more, good for you, you finish paying earlier; but if you can’t, you can do 75 at a time”.

God bless his heart! ❤️
There are a few Judas Priest I like, I stick them firmly in metal/British metal.
Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, classic rock, followed by metal.
Motorhead, JP, UFO, Saxon.
American rock comes after this which puts the thread back on track with music I hate.
Guns & Roses, Poison, Ratt, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue and other cr4p my brain has forced me to forget.
 
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  • #57
pinball1970 said:
There are a few Judas Priest I like, I stick them firmly in metal/British metal.
Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, classic rock, followed by metal.
Motorhead, JP, UFO, Saxon.
American rock comes after this which puts the thread back on track with music I hate.
Guns & Roses, Poison, Ratt, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue and other cr4p my brain has forced me to forget.
Another metal band I loved was Accept, great German band! Ahhh those were the days. I honestly haven't followed any of them anymore, so no idea what they are up to nowadays. Life happened, new companies, newfound solitude through the years, and then Bach, my faithful constant ever since childhood, Who of course trumps everything and everybody else by a landslide. When metalheads say the Man was totally metal it annoys the headlights out of me. I mean, duh, there isn't anything heavier or more metal than the majesty of a pipe organ, so I guess they might be right to some point. Problem is, that's not the reason for the comparison. That the Man did the most stunningly, perfect and excellent Music in history is out of the question, and so is the fact that metal as a whole genre could only wish to be worth of clipping Bach's toenails. One cannot take some of His sublime bars, desecrate the sh...t out of them by mindless shredding and noise, without concern for harmony whatsoever, and compare it to the Master :mad::mad:

As for American rock, I couldn't agree more. Trailer park music. I love this country to death for many reasons, but its popular music leaves a lot to be desired.
 
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  • #58
Following on from another discussion regarding John Cage, led me to look into his work a little more.

I very rarely hear this sort of thing on the radio, TV or anywhere really.

I always referred to this kind of modern classical music as “plink plonk.”

I do not hate it but given enough air time..

 
  • #59
pinball1970 said:
I always referred to this kind of modern classical music as “plink plonk.”
Then there is the electronic version, which I think of as "bloop bleep."
 
  • #60
pinball1970 said:
I always referred to this kind of modern classical music as “plink plonk.”
Well, it took 1:40 (about a third) of that to change my mind. Hip hop is no longer at the very bottom of my list.
 
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  • #61
pinball1970 said:
Following on from another discussion regarding John Cage, led me to look into his work a little more.

I very rarely hear this sort of thing on the radio, TV or anywhere really.

I always referred to this kind of modern classical music as “plink plonk.”

I do not hate it but given enough air time..

What about these?





Or this John Cage piece?

 
  • #62
BWV said:
What about these?





Or this John Cage piece?


So he is also the guy who stuck stuff in the piano? Yep hate that.
 
  • #63
BWV said:
What about these?





Or this John Cage piece?


Ligeti and Carter? There is more structure than Cage (who I have finally decided I hate with no ambiguity)
It is fast on the whole, the chords make no sense (to me) and I think of a thriller movie where a woman is running through the woods at night escaping from a lunatic.
Some of the runs are clever (and I would love to have reading skills and techniques to be able to play like that on the piano) but the music on the whole fills me with a sense of dread and anxiety.
 
  • #64
I really loathe this one.

 
  • #65
Huh. I love it. Did a lap around the block to hear it when it came on the radio.
 
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  • #66
Hornbein said:
I really loathe this one.


I should hate this but I don't. EDIT: I should add that SAW were the worst thing to ever happen in pop music. This is them BUT I do like this track. Anyway I will post some garbage to make up for it.
 
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  • #67
1987, probably one of the worst years in pop music history. Forget learning to play, music structure, creativity, lyrics. You can make garbage like this and because it's 1987 people will like it.

 
  • #68
If you can find a worst track than this then I will take my hat off.
To call this talentless garbage gives refuse with low ability a bad name. It is bad. Ghastly.

 
  • #69
The lovely Sonia
 
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  • #70
Paul Simon. Yes, the creator of that beautiful music from the music of the 60s and 70s disappeared in the abyss of nothingness that was the mid 80s. This is an annoying tune/ arrangement, ridiculous backwards bass (spot it) and stupid video. Cannot stand it.

 
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  • #71
Sam fox was a glamour model in the 1980s. Pretty grim looking back at it. (I will let you Google)
Anyway an attempt to create a British Madonna she got some tracks, a production team, video.... This was the result.
She was quite a smart business woman early doors looking back at her career. That is not was art is supposed to be though.
 
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  • #72
This.

 
  • #73
Steven Tin Tin Duffy.

 
  • #74
This kind of sparked the beginning of the end of serious pop music for me

 
  • #75
Garbage.

 
  • #76
pinball1970 said:
This kind of sparked the beginning of the end of serious pop music for me
For me, the end came from the confluence of
1: MTV stopped playing music
2: birth of "classic rock" radio
3: reaching my mid 20's

oh, and:
4: the "not classic rock" radio stations playing rap/hip-hop
 
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  • #77
More garbage.

 
  • #78
Oh, and I detest that auto tune sound. Ugh. Instantly snap the radio off.
 
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  • #79
gmax137 said:
Oh, and I detest that auto tune sound. Ugh. Instantly snap the radio off.
Yep. Garbage.
 
  • #80
gmax137 said:
Oh, and I detest that auto tune sound. Ugh. Instantly snap the radio off.
Robot-level Autotune is sort of like refined sugar. I liked it for about a week. That was enough.

My musician friend tells me that everyone uses it. Usually it's subtle enough that only experts can tell. That doesn't bother me. Who knows. maybe it's good.
 
  • #81
Hornbein said:
Robot-level Autotune is sort of like refined sugar. I liked it for about a week. That was enough.

My musician friend tells me that everyone uses it. Usually it's subtle enough that only experts can tell. That doesn't bother me. Who knows. maybe it's good.
It is not good. It is taking an inaccurate voice and touching it up. Great voices can be inaccurate but if they really have something then true personality and colour are added. That certain Je n'sais quoi.
 
  • #82
What the hell was "Jack?" Dance? This song is saying forget great 70s music and buy this formulaic dance music instead. Make me some money and I will build a production line of it. It worked for a time sadly.

 
  • #83
pinball1970 said:
It is not good. It is taking an inaccurate voice and touching it up. Great voices can be inaccurate but if they really have something then true personality and colour are added. That certain Je n'sais quoi.
I would have to disagree, of course it was the talk box Roger used, but he made magic with it.

But yes, autotune is garbage. It's the repetitive nature of it, and lack of creativity.
 
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  • #84
MidgetDwarf said:
I would have to disagree, of course it was the talk box Roger used, but he made magic with it.

But yes, autotune is garbage. It's the repetitive nature of it, and lack of creativity.
I like the guitar in Haitian Divorce
 
  • #85
Hornbein said:
I really loathe this one.

DaveC426913 said:
Huh. I love it. Did a lap around the block to hear it when it came on the radio.

pinball1970 said:
I should hate this but I don't.

Haha, I've loved that song ever since it was released. Well written and extremely catchy.
And an extra bonus is that it brings back good memories from the 80s for me.

pinball1970 said:
I should add that SAW were the worst thing to ever happen in pop music.
I took me a while to understand what you meant by SAW.
I guess you mean Stock Aitken Waterman?
 
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  • #86
pinball1970 said:
I should add that SAW were the worst thing to ever happen in pop music.
Really? :oldconfused:

Have you considered:



:smile:

The lyrics have the depth of a plate. :biggrin:
 
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  • #87
sbrothy said:
Ska is like reggae without the inclusion and "goodnatureness". As if a bunch of hippie musicians ran out of weed.
...and started using metamphetamines instead :smile:.
 
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  • #88
DennisN said:
Really? :oldconfused:

Have you considered:



:smile:

The lyrics have the depth of a plate. :biggrin:

DO NOT OPEN!
 
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  • #89
fresh_42 said:
DO NOT OPEN!
I opened......the horror...

It was like a stereotype, of a 1980s cliché.
 
  • #90
I didn't mind Russ Abbott, he was funny in the 80s. After this was released he was not funny any more.

 
  • #91
pinball1970 said:
I opened......the horror...

It was like a stereotype, of a 1980s cliché.
Here is the version that I prefer:

 
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  • #92
fresh_42 said:
Here is the version that I prefer:


That looks like a lot more fun!
 
  • #93
See how long it takes people to guess who this is. It's the 80s so it looks and sounds rubbish but the song is not that bad. He sounds a bit like Bowie?

 
  • #94
DennisN said:
Haha, I've loved that song ever since it was released. Well written and extremely catchy.
And an extra bonus is that it brings back good memories from the 80s for me.I took me a while to understand what you meant by SAW.
I guess you mean Stock Aitken Waterman?
Yes SAW were to music what "The Sun" is to intelligent, investigative journalism.
 
  • #95
pinball1970 said:
Yes SAW were to music what "The Sun" is to intelligent, investigative journalism.
At least we Europeans know that it is primarily entertaining, the Sun, I mean.
 
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  • #96
fresh_42 said:
At least we Europeans know that it is primarily entertaining, the Sun, I mean.
"The Star" is actually worse. The Sun is for stupid adults, the Star is for stupid teenagers.
Last week I checked the Sun on line because I wanted to make a joke. The story was about Betelgeuse and a Guardian article. The Sun not only had a (half decent) write up, it had a link to a paper in Nature! I almost fell off my stool!
 
  • #97
pinball1970 said:
"The Star" is actually worse. The Sun is for stupid adults, the Star is for stupid teenagers.
Last week I checked the Sun on line because I wanted to make a joke. The story was about Betelgeuse and a Guardian article. The Sun not only had a (half decent) write up, it had a link to a paper in Nature! I almost fell off my stool!
 
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  • #98
pinball1970 said:
I opened......the horror...

It was like a stereotype, of a 1980s cliché.
C'mon now. Surely this is a modern parody of 80s music and music videos, right?

Right?
 
  • #99
DaveC426913 said:
C'mon now. Surely this is a modern parody of 80s music and music videos, right?

Right?
I don't know is it? Poe kicking in?
 
  • #100
Unfortunately, it is not. And I remember that I had to buy a pair of jeans in a shop where they played their music. Horror!
 
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