(MVT) f(x)=sinx. Show that, for any given a and b, |sina-sinb|<=|b-a|

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The discussion revolves around applying the Mean Value Theorem to the function f(x) = sin(x) to show that for any given a and b, the inequality |sin(a) - sin(b)| ≤ |b - a| holds true. Participants are exploring the properties of the sine function and its derivative in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Mean Value Theorem, noting the continuity of the sine function and the existence of its derivative. They explore the implications of the derivative and the absolute value in the context of the theorem.

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The conversation has progressed through various interpretations and attempts to manipulate the expressions involved. Some participants have offered insights into the properties of absolute values and the behavior of the cosine function, while others are still clarifying their understanding of these concepts.

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There is an acknowledgment of the need for careful interpretation of the absolute value and the conditions under which the Mean Value Theorem applies. Participants are also navigating the transition from theoretical understanding to practical application in proving the inequality.

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I'm so bad with the Mean Value Theorem. Can someone help me prove that, if f(x)=sinx, that, for any given a and b, |sinb-sina|<=|b-a|. Explain if you could too, please. Thanks a lot.
 
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Start with what you know. What does the mean value theorem say?
 
First of all, I just realized I should've posted this in the homework section. And I know the function is cont. on [a,b] and f'(x) exists on (a,b) so f'(c)=(f(b)-f(a))/(b-a). So f'(c)=(sinb-sina)/(b-a). But I'm not sure how f'(c) comes into play. And I don't know how to interperate the absolute value either.
 
Ok, so we have:

(sin(b)-sin(a)) = f'(c)(b-a)

It's a well-known fact that x = y → |x| = |y|.

How can we apply that?
 
I honestly don't know...lol :\
 
gb7nash said:
x = y → |x| = |y|

This says that:

left-hand side = right-hand side

can be rewritten as:

|left-hand side| = |right-hand side|

For example:

a+b = c+d → |a+b| = |c+d|

Now, let's look at the problem at hand. We have:

(sin(b)-sin(a)) = f'(c)(b-a)

Applying the absolute value on both sides, how can we rewrite this?
 
|sin(b)-sin(a)| = |f'(c)(b-a)|. I understand this, I just read it wrong, lol sorry
 
NWeid1 said:
|sin(b)-sin(a)| = |f'(c)(b-a)|

Ok, good. Now, let's calculate what f'(c) is. What's f'(x)? After you have that, plug c in.
 
f'(x) = cosx so f'(c) = cos(c).
 
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NWeid1 said:
f'(x) = cosx so f'(c) = cos(c).

Correct. So now, we have:

|sin(b)-sin(a)| = |cos(c)(b-a)|

It's also a well-known fact that |xy| = |x||y|. How could we rewrite the right-hand side?
 
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|sin(b)-sin(a)| = |cos(c)||b-a|. And -1<=cosx<=1 so would it be |sin(b)-sin(a)| <= 1|b-a| ?
 
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NWeid1 said:
|sin(b)-sin(a)| = |cos(c)||b-a|. And -1<=cosx<=1 so would it be |sin(b)-sin(a)| <= 1|b-a| ?

Correct.
 
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Thank you so much for working with me and not just posting an unexplained proof. Props!
 

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