My Alloy Question: Material Composition of 3 Alloys

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The discussion revolves around identifying the material composition of three different types of alloys, specifically focusing on their visual characteristics such as shininess. Participants explore the implications of surface structure on appearance and suggest potential materials used in alloy production.

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  • Some participants suggest that the shininess of the alloys may be attributed to surface structure rather than the inherent material properties.
  • There is a claim that it is impossible to determine the specific elements in the alloys just by visual inspection.
  • One participant expresses frustration with vague responses, comparing it to asking for specific information and receiving a non-informative answer.
  • Another participant mentions that information about materials used in alloys can be found in various books and online resources, including Wikipedia.
  • One participant proposes that the shinier alloys may be aluminum with a chrome finish, while others mention the historical use of magnesium alloys in alloy wheels.
  • A later reply discusses the transition from magnesium to aluminum alloys in the context of durability and maintenance issues.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific material compositions of the alloys. Multiple viewpoints are presented regarding the characteristics and potential materials, indicating ongoing debate and exploration.

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Some claims depend on assumptions about the visibility of material properties and the context of use for the alloys. The discussion does not resolve the specific compositions or characteristics of the alloys in question.

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I found three different type of alloy.

1. Not shiny
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or

Alloy-Wheel-for-S5.jpg


2. Shiny
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or



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What is the the material composition of these alloys?
 
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Shiny <-> not shiny is probably just a result of the surface and its structure.
It is impossible to tell which elements are in those objects just by looking at them, but you can find out which materials are frequently used for those objects.
 
mfb said:
Shiny <-> not shiny is probably just a result of the surface and its structure.
It is impossible to tell which elements are in those objects just by looking at them,

I do not need this kind of answer.

Like I asking "what kind of of tree is that?", then your answer is "It's green".

mfb said:
but you can find out which materials are frequently used for those objects.

Where?
 
vee6 said:
I do not need this kind of answer.

Like I asking "what kind of of tree is that?", then your answer is "It's green".
I see a different comparison:
"What kind of tree is that?"
"It is not a tree, it is a house."
Where?
In >100 books and web pages about rims.
Wikipedia is a good place to start
 
Obviously, someone sells these items. Start with them. Do a little digging, find out who makes them. They certainly should know.

My guess: Aluminum. The shinier ones will have chrome applied to the exterior.
 
There is a reason that the nickname for alloy wheels is 'mags'. They were originally made largely of magnesium alloys. Due to durability and maintenance issues, magnesium fell out of favor and was replaced by other alloys, mainly aluminum. The shiniest ones are indeed chromed, that is, plated with chromium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_alloy_wheel#Magnesium_alloy_wheels
 

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