My minor in Math isn't official , don't know how to explain it on resume

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The discussion revolves around how to represent a non-official minor in Mathematics on a resume after completing the necessary coursework at different institutions. Participants explore the implications of this situation for job applications and how to effectively communicate mathematical skills without misrepresenting qualifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration over not being informed about the requirement to complete more than half of the minor's credits at the graduating institution, leading to a lack of official recognition for their coursework.
  • Another participant suggests that having a degree in Physics implies a certain level of mathematical skill, which may be understood by employers without needing to specify a minor.
  • Some participants propose using phrases like "concentration in Mathematics" or detailing "extensive coursework in mathematics" on the resume to communicate relevant skills without claiming an official minor.
  • There is a caution against stating that one has a minor when it has not been officially awarded, with some arguing that this could be misleading.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential consequences of misrepresenting qualifications, with some participants advising against lying on a resume.
  • It is noted that employers may focus more on demonstrated skills rather than the specific wording of a degree or minor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how to represent the minor on a resume. While some suggest alternative phrasing to highlight mathematical coursework, others emphasize the importance of honesty regarding official qualifications.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the implications of using terms like "concentration" and the potential institutional guidelines that may apply to such claims. The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the ethics of resume representation.

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my minor in Math isn't "official", don't know how to explain it on resume

I took all the required classes needed to obtain a minor in Math from my graduating school, but unfortunately more than half the classes were transfer credits from my first school I transferred out of after my first year. Since my graduating school requires more than half the credits to be taken there, I have no minor to show for on my transcript even though I took every class necessary to obtain it, just at separate institutions. Pretty pissed because I wasn't made aware of this rule before taking the final 2 math classes required for the minor at my graduating school, essentially wasting money on 8 credits. But anyways...

I'm in the process of applying to jobs now and I don't want to lie on my resume and say "Bachelor of Science in Physics; Mathematics Minor" but how else can I effectively communicate that I basically do have a minor in math, it's just not "official"? Say "concentration in Mathematics" or something and then explain in the interview?

I'm not really sure how to word this on my resume, any advice would be greatly appreciated!
 
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If you've majored in physics the people who know what that means will generally understand that you have a certain level of mathematical skill. At my undergrad institution you couldn't earn a minor in math if you were taking a physics degree because you wouldn't have had to take any additional courses.

From a resume point of view, you should be tailoring it to the specific jobs you're applying to anyway. In situations where it makes a difference, point out some of the additional mathematics courses that you've taken that might be relevant to the position. Remember, most employers aren't interested in what your degree says, but the skills you will bring to their company.

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Pretty pissed because I wasn't made aware of this rule before taking the final 2 math classes required for the minor at my graduating school, essentially wasting money on 8 credits.
When seeking employment, be careful of the language you use if this comes up. The phrase "I wasn't made aware..." implies that you're placing the responsibility for understanding the requirements of your own academic path on someone else.
 


Let's be clear: you don't have a minor in math. You haven't been awarded one because you haven't met the institutions requirements. This may not be fair, but it is nevertheless true. And like Choppy says, most employers aren't interested in what your degree says, but the skills you will bring to their company.
 


Yes, you could add "with a concentration in mathematics" below your degree.
 


rcw110131 said:
II'm in the process of applying to jobs now and I don't want to lie on my resume and say "Bachelor of Science in Physics; Mathematics Minor" but how else can I effectively communicate that I basically do have a minor in math, it's just not "official"? Say "concentration in Mathematics" or something and then explain in the interview?

Put something like "extensive coursework in mathematics including courses in X, Y, Z". Also you should realize that most employers will assume that if you have a bachelor in physics, that you are decent at math, so adding a minor isn't going to be a huge benefit.

I should point out that the one area in which you really should mention if you have it is if you have coursework in statistics or numerical analysis. The standard physics curriculum is weak in those areas.

Also employers are less concerned about where you have knowledge from. If they need to know your math abilities they can and will give you a lot of math questions.
 


Just say you have the minor... no one is going to check.
 


PhDorBust said:
Just say you have the minor... no one is going to check.

An unbelievably bad idea. If you are going to lie on your resume, at least lie about something that people will actually care about.
 


PhDorBust said:
Just say you have the minor... no one is going to check.

Bad advice.
 


marcusl said:
Yes, you could add "with a concentration in mathematics" below your degree.

This might not be the best idea. Many schools note when you have a concentration in a particular field and have guidelines that you must meet. The best thing you can do is what was already mentioned, I took extra course work in Mathematics in courses X, Y, Z. As mentioned before.
 

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