Mysterious Movement in Pool - What Could it Be?

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The discussion revolves around a phenomenon observed in a swimming pool, where a line of light appears to move horizontally from the deep end to the shallow end, creating a ripple effect at the surface. Participants explore potential explanations for this occurrence, considering aspects of physics, optics, and environmental factors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a line of light moving across the pool and suggests it might be heat rising from a deeper to a shallower medium.
  • Another participant questions whether the phenomenon is indeed light, prompting further clarification.
  • A different participant proposes that the line could be a small wave starting from the deep end, possibly caused by a strainer or similar source.
  • Another response speculates that the line may relate to reflections and draws a parallel to cosmological concepts discussed in a course by Professor Susskind.
  • One participant describes the line as appearing randomly and moving in a straight line, emphasizing its consistent behavior.
  • Another participant requests more details about the line's characteristics, suggesting it could be a surface ripple caused by wind.
  • A participant provides specific details about the pool's orientation, dimensions, and conditions during the observation, noting the line's movement and behavior at the shallow end.
  • Another participant comments on the length of the pool and requests images to better understand the context.
  • One participant theorizes that the line could be a singleton surface wave, suggesting the light is a hotspot caused by the wave's curvature acting like a magnifying glass.
  • There is speculation about why the line does not reflect back toward the deep end, with various reasons proposed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of the observed phenomenon, with no consensus reached on a single explanation. Various hypotheses are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of environmental factors such as wind and sunlight, as well as the pool's physical characteristics, which may influence the observed phenomenon. Some assumptions about the nature of light and waves are present but not fully explored.

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I hesitate to say this is an anomaly, as it probably has a simple answer, but I have noticed a line of light moving horizontally across my pool every now and then, it starts at the deep end and moves continuously to the shallow end, moves up the wall at the shallow end, and ends at the surface of the water creating a small ripple effect. This can't be light and I suspected it was heat rising from a deeper to a shallower medium. Any thoughts?
thanks for any input!
 
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Abby4761 said:
I have noticed a line of light

Abby4761 said:
This can't be light

Well is it light or isn't it? :wink:
 
Abby4761 said:
I hesitate to say this is an anomaly, as it probably has a simple answer, but I have noticed a line of light moving horizontally across my pool every now and then, it starts at the deep end and moves continuously to the shallow end, moves up the wall at the shallow end, and ends at the surface of the water creating a small ripple effect. This can't be light and I suspected it was heat rising from a deeper to a shallower medium. Any thoughts?
thanks for any input!

Welcome to the PF.

Sounds like a small wave that starts from the deep end for some reason. Is there some source like a strainer or something at the deep end that could occasionally start a small wave?
 
Your question doesn't give much detail, but I'm guessing that the "line" is a variation of the following kind of reflection.

http://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/568828/preview/stock-footage-swimming-pool-bottom.jpg

In a cosmology course on video, Professor Susskind pointed out the similarities between pool bottoms and the large scale variations in the universe. He then continued to explain the common mathematics of both.

galseq_D_063.jpg


So if my guess it correct, your question relates to very interesting physics.
 
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No, it comes randomly and in a straight line of light that moves across the pool to the shallow end in about 30 seconds. Thanks for the input!
 
Can you describe in more detail what you mean by straight line? where does it start? Where does it end? Which way is it oriented? How does it move in relation to its orientation? Is there a breeze? Is it sunny? Are there waves? Does the line of light shimmer?

Me, I'm suspecting a surface ripple from a very light gust of wind. It looks exactly like a mosquito buzzing the water.
 
It starts in the deep end of the pool which is facing towards the east., and the shallow towards the west. This happened when it was sunny and about 90 degrees. however it has recurred in different temperatures and times of day. The line looks like what anorlunda referred to, but it is straight and sloped (highest point in the northeast and lowest southwest). The pool is about 30 meters long and it takes the line about 45 seconds to reach the shallow end of the pool. When it comes to the end of the shallow end it makes its way up the curved pool wall, effectively shrinking this moving mystery line, and when it reaches the surface the line disappears and creates a small ripple of water.
 
Abby4761 said:
The pool is about 30 meters long

That's a long pool. :smile: Can you post some pictures of the pool and what-all is in the deep end that might be generating a small wave sometimes?
 
Abby4761 said:
When it comes to the end of the shallow end it makes its way up the curved pool wall, effectively shrinking this moving mystery line, and when it reaches the surface the line disappears and creates a small ripple of water.
This sounds very much like a singleton surface wave making its way down the length of the pool. Waves traveling the length of the pool will last much longer than waves traveling the width.

The light is a hotspot on the pool bottom, caused by the curve of the wave acting like a magnifying glass.

I would have thought though, that you'd see the line reflect back toward the deep end - though I can think of a few reasons why it might not be fully reflective in the shallow end.
 
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