Name of compensation factor when converting between coord. systems?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a specific term related to converting between coordinate systems, particularly focusing on a compensation factor that is necessary in such transformations. The subject area includes concepts from calculus and coordinate geometry.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the ambiguity of the original question and seek clarification through examples. Some suggest that the term may relate to the Jacobian matrix, while others express uncertainty about the terminology used in the context of their coursework.

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The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have suggested that the term "Jacobian" might be relevant, while others are still trying to clarify the original question's intent. There is an acknowledgment of the educational context, which encourages self-research and deeper understanding.

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Participants note that the course is not credit-bearing and is designed to challenge students with advanced concepts based on basic principles. There is mention of coursework involving transformations between coordinate systems, which may provide further insights into the topic.

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When converting from one coordinate system to another, you cannot just use standard conversion formulas, but have to compensate using a special factor term. What is the name of that special compensation factor?

I'm having no luck with finding the name.
 
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Just to make sure I know what you are talking about, please provide an example.
 
If you're talking about integrals, then it's the determinant of the Jacobian matrix. Otherwise, I agree with Simon that your statement is much too ambiguous.
 
Sorry but this is the entire question. I can't offer clarification because I don't really get what is being asked either.
 
It is unlikely that you will be asked a question like that unless the terms have been used before in your coursework.

That coursework probably involves transforming between coordinate systems.

Take a look at that work, especially worked examples, and see if you can work out what is meant by the "standard conversion formulas" and how these get modified when they are used.

If you don't see it - then please copy out an example from your coursework.
How are you expected to transform between coordinate systems?

To my mind - if a "compensating factor" were needed every time, then the "standard conversion formulas" would include it.

I was thinking "Jacobean" too ... but if that word does not ring any bells it's probably not it.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
It is unlikely that you will be asked a question like that unless the terms have been used before in your coursework.

That coursework probably involves transforming between coordinate systems.

Take a look at that work, especially worked examples, and see if you can work out what is meant by the "standard conversion formulas" and how these get modified when they are used.

If you don't see it - then please copy out an example from your coursework.
How are you expected to transform between coordinate systems?

To my mind - if a "compensating factor" were needed every time, then the "standard conversion formulas" would include it.

I was thinking "Jacobean" too ... but if that word does not ring any bells it's probably not it.

Jacobian was mentioned in passing.

This isn't a credit-bearing calculus course. It's just part of a summer program at my University for incoming qualifying low-income students. I was assigned to this particular course which has the goal of encouraging self research and challenging student limits. It's a mix of video lectures, quizzes, tests, self study and research, etc. We're given the most basic concepts then tests on those concepts at a more advanced level for the challenge. So it certainly is not a traditional mathematics courses. I've actually found such a style to be enjoyable in that it actually encourages me to try to understand concepts on a higher level.
 
In another problem from the same problem set which I've asked about here, finding the solution involved Jacobians. Said question involved finding a compensation factor for conversions between coordinate units.

I think I'll go with the answer as Jacobian.

Thanks everyone!
 
WK95 said:
In another problem from the same problem set which I've asked about here, finding the solution involved Jacobians. Said question involved finding a compensation factor for conversions between coordinate units.
That's what you needed to find all right ... double-check that the "compensating factor" is the "determinant of the Jacobean".

But since it is not credit-bearing, you can use the response to your answer as a learning exercise.
 
Simon Bridge said:
But since it is not credit-bearing, you can use the response to your answer as a learning exercise.

Yep. That's pretty much the entire idea of this course.
 

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