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Need Deflection of Light Clarification!

  1. Jun 20, 2014 #1
    Both the Newtonian theory on gravitation and the General theory of Relativity predict a change in the direction of a beam of light as it propagates past a large mass. Regardless of the precision of the Δ velocity component (the component that can represent the vertical shift towards a mass), If you think in terms of vector displacement, then you have a resultant vector who's magnitude is greater than the speed of light. I apologize for the awful depiction. https://twitter.com/ValorAtmC/status/480107448385019904/photo/1 ..... I understand that if this were true, a conflict with special relativity is created. With that being said, can somebody please point out what I'm missing?
     
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  3. Jun 20, 2014 #2

    jtbell

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    In general relativity, the statement "the speed of light is a constant c" is true only in a local sense. That is, if you could measure the speed of a pulse of light as it passes by you, using measurements that are "close enough" to your own location, you would get c, no matter where you are.

    However, the "average" speed between two "distantly" separated points, computed as Δx/Δt, can be different from c, because of effects due to the curvature of spacetime.
     
  4. Jun 20, 2014 #3

    Bill_K

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    Your vector displacement is the difference between a deflected path and an undeflected one. Nothing travels along this displacement vector.
     
  5. Jun 20, 2014 #4

    pervect

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    The speed of light is equal to "c" locally in any small region as measured by local clocks and local rules in any local inertial frame. However, the coordinate speed of light is not necessarily "c" in any given global coordinate system. In generalized coordinates, and in curved space-time, the coordinate speeds don't have any particular physical significance, the locally measured speeds are much more physically significant.

    Some of the effects are due to the curvature of space-time, and are rather similar to how a great circle can be the shortest distance between two points on the Earth's surface, yet appear to be "curved" when plotted out on an chart. Like a great circle on the surface of the Earth, the path of light through space-time is a geodesic.
     
  6. Jun 20, 2014 #5
    Thank you for the response. I was just confused because I assumed a luminiferous ether.
     
  7. Jun 20, 2014 #6

    Thank you for the response.
     
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