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In summary, the first conversation discusses a wheel with a constant external torque applied for 20 seconds, resulting in an angular velocity of 600 rev/min. The moment of inertia and frictional torque are then calculated but the results were incorrect. In the second conversation, two experiments are described involving blocks and a clay ball, with equations for conservation of energy and momentum being used to calculate the final velocities. However, the resulting velocities were also incorrect. The speaker is seeking help in identifying and correcting their mistakes.
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Homework Statement



1. A wheel mounted on an axis that is not frictionless is initially at rest. A constant external torque of 50 N*m is applied to the wheel for 20s, giving the wheel an angular velocity of 600 rev/min. The external torque is then removed, and the wheel comes to rest 120s later. Find the moment of inertia of the wheel, and the frictional torque, which is assumed to be constant.

2.A 2kg block and an 8kg block are both attached to an ideal spring for which k=200 N/m and both are initially at rest on a horizontal frictionless surface. In an initial experiment a 0.1kg ball of clay is thrown at the 2kg block. The clay is moving horizontally with speed v when it hits and sticks to the block. The 8kg block is held still by a removable stop. As a result, the spring compresses a maximum distance of 0.4m.

In a second experiment, an identical ball of clay is thrown at another identical 2kg block, but this time the stop is removed so that the 8kg block is free to move.

e. State the principle(s) that can be used to calculate the velocity of the 8kg block at the instant that the spring regains its original length. Write the appropriate equation(s) and show the numerical substitutions, but do not solve for velocity.


Homework Equations



[tex]\tau[/tex]=II*[tex]\alpha[/tex]

Ei=Ef
Pi=Pf

The Attempt at a Solution



1. I found out the angular acceleration by using change in angular speed over change in time which is 3.14 rad/s^2

Then I set up the system of equation as [tex]\tau[/tex]friction= I*3.14 and 50-[tex]\tau[/tex]friction=5*3.14

Then I found out frictional torque is 25 N*m and I=7.96 kg*m^2

However, my result was wrong so can you guys help me spot out where did I do wrong and how to fix it ?


2.So I use conservation of energy and conservation of momentum.

For momentum I have

m(clay)*v(clay) + m(blocks)*v(blocks)= (m(clay)+2)+v(f,1) + 8*v(f,2)

I substitute numbers in as: 0.1*8.2= 2.1*v(f,1)+8*v(f,2)

For conservation of energy I have

(1/2)*0.1*8.2^2=(1/2)*2.1*v(f,1)^2+(1/2)*8*v(f,2)^2

I get 336.2=1.05*v(f,1)^2+4*v(f,2)^2

I set a system of equations containing two equations I just got and get

v(f,1)= -15.03 and v(f,2)= (8.2-2.1*-15.03)/8

Another wrong result. Anyone can spot out and help me fix the mistake ??

Thank you.
 
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So do you guys think my methods were wrong or were that my calculations ?? I have not spotted the mistake yet. Anyone ?
 
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As a scientist, it is important to carefully analyze and troubleshoot your approach when solving problems. In the first problem, you correctly used the equation \tau=I\alpha, but it appears that you may have made a mistake in your substitution. When solving for the moment of inertia, you should have \tau=I*3.14, not \taufriction=I*3.14. This would give you a moment of inertia of 15.92 kg*m^2, which is different from your initial result. It is also important to check your units to ensure they are consistent throughout your calculations.

In the second problem, it seems that you may have made a mistake in your conservation of momentum equation. The correct equation should be m(clay)*v(clay) + m(blocks)*v(blocks)= (m(clay)+m(blocks))*v(final). This would give you a different system of equations and final results.

Additionally, it is always helpful to double check your calculations and equations to make sure they are consistent and accurate. It may also be beneficial to seek assistance from a peer or instructor if you are having trouble solving a problem. Good luck with your homework!
 

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