Need Help Drawing a Free Body Diagram

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The discussion revolves around drawing a free body diagram for a scenario involving a 1000 kg car pushing a 2000 kg truck. The problem includes a force of 4500 N exerted by the car's drive wheels against the ground, and participants are exploring how to represent these forces accurately in the diagram.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to clarify the role of the 4500 N force and how it should be represented in the free body diagram. Questions are raised about the direction of this force and its relationship to gravity and motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the interpretation of forces based on Newton's laws, while others are confirming the components of the free body diagrams for both the car and the truck. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas regarding the setup of the diagrams.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of understanding Newton's laws and the specific forces acting on the car and truck. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct representation of forces in the free body diagrams.

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Homework Statement



A 1000kg car pushed a 2000kg truck. When the driver steps on the accelerator, the drive wheels of the car push against the ground with a force of 4500 N. What is the magnitude of the force of the car on the truck? What is the magnitude of the truck on the car?

Homework Equations



Newton's 2nd and 3rd Laws

The Attempt at a Solution



I can solve the problem once I know what the free body diagram looks like. I don't understand what to do with the 4500 N force. The problem states that 4500 N are "pushing against the ground." Does that mean I should a 4500 N force pointing in the same direction as gravity? Or does this force point in the direction of motion?
 
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drive wheels of the car push against the ground with a force of 4500 N
That is too small to be the force of gravity. It must be half of Newton's 3rd law for making the car accelerate:
"The car pushed back on the road with 4500 N so the road pushed forward on the car with an equal and opposite force."
 
So for the car, the free body diagram has gravity pointing down, normal force pointing up, 4000N pointing in the direction of motion, and the force from the truck pushing back on the car pointing in the opposite direction of motion.

For the truck, gravity pointing down, normal force pointing up, and the force from the car pointing in the direction of motion.

Are these correct?
 
That looks right - carry on!
 

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