Need help finding a suitable piezo actuator

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The discussion revolves around the search for a suitable piezoelectric actuator to achieve higher accelerations than those provided by a Linear Resonant Actuator (LRA). The focus is on understanding the capabilities of piezo actuators in terms of acceleration, frequency, and travel distance, as well as clarifying technical specifications and terminology.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) seeks a piezo actuator that can provide accelerations of 5-10G+ at similar sizes to their current LRA, which produces about 1.7G.
  • One participant notes that piezo actuators can generate high forces, suggesting they may meet the OP's acceleration needs, but expresses uncertainty about the specifics of resonance frequency and stroke.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of knowing the required travel distance for the actuator, citing a specific piezo actuator with only 300 micrometers of travel.
  • Some participants express a lack of concern for the actuator's travel distance, focusing instead on the acceleration and frequency it can provide.
  • A participant points to a resource with specifications for various piezo actuators, listing parameters such as displacement, diameter, blocking force, and resonant frequency.
  • There is confusion among participants regarding the meaning of resonance frequency, particularly in relation to the number of cycles per second.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of travel distance versus acceleration and frequency. There is also uncertainty regarding the technical specifications of piezo actuators, particularly concerning resonance frequency and stroke.

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Limitations in the discussion include missing specifications for the required travel distance and the varying interpretations of technical terms related to piezo actuators.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in actuator technology, particularly in the context of high acceleration applications, as well as those seeking clarification on piezoelectric actuator specifications and performance characteristics.

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Hi there,
I'm an undergrad and I'm designing a system at the moment. It utilizes a LRA (Linear Resonant Actuator), but I'm in need of much higher accelerations than what it offers. The current device is small (about 10 mm), circular, and produces about 1.7G of acceleration on a 100g object. A link of what I am currently using can be found here: https://catalog.precisionmicrodrive...10-000-10mm-linear-resonant-actuator-3mm-type

However, for many reasons, from my research I have determined that it would be better to utilize a piezoelectric actuator.
I am not very experienced in this field though and am wondering if I could get much larger accelerations (5-10G+) at somewhat similar frequencies out of a piezo actuator that is about the same size.

Thanks for the help!
 
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I've worked with LRAs before, but not piezo actuators. From a few google searches it seems as though most piezo sites use force as a measurement and they are capable of generating many thousands of Newtons so you should be able to get your acceleration. They also show some resonance frequencies, but I'm not sure if that's the vibration frequency or something else. They also use the term stroke, and I'm not sure if that's the amount the actuator moves or the device it is attached to. I'm also not sure about the size and how the piezo actuator works (they require large voltages, but I'm not sure about the current/how it works, etc...).

Hopefully this helped at least a little bit. Maybe another physics forum member can chime in and help fill in the gaps :)
 
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The OP omitted a key requirement. How much distance (travel) must the actuator move. A high force piezo actuator I found on google only has a travel of 300 micro-meters.
 
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anorlunda said:
The OP omitted a key requirement. How much distance (travel) must the actuator move. A high force piezo actuator I found on google only has a travel of 300 micro-meters.

I don't really care how much the actuator moves, just how much acceleration/frequency it provides to the object it is affecting. Any additional information on how the actuator/whole system moves is just a plus.
 
ToInfinity said:
I don't really care how much the actuator moves, just how much acceleration/frequency it provides to the object it is affecting. Any additional information on how the actuator/whole system moves is just a plus.

Then I don't understand why you had to post this question. I did a google search on piezoelectric actuator. One of the http://www.physikinstrumente.com/product-detail-page/p-007-p-056-102600.html gave a table of specifications for dozens of different models.

http://www.physikinstrumente.com/product-detail-page/p-007-p-056-102600.html

Displacement
Diameter OD
Length L
Blocking force
Stiffness
Electrical capacitance
Resonant frequency

What more information do you need?
 
anorlunda said:
What more information do you need?
Nice. I'm bookmarking this one.
 
I'm sort of confused about the resonance frequency. I get that at the mechanical resonance it vibrates most effectively, but to my understanding a hertz is a cycle a second...but if things are like 126 kHz does that mean they vibrate 126,000 times per second?
 

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