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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function f(x) = x(x² - 4)^(1/2). Participants explore the application of the product rule and the differentiation of composite functions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of the product rule and the differentiation of terms involving square roots and powers. There are questions about the correctness of the original function and confusion regarding the steps taken in differentiation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on applying the product rule and clarifying the differentiation process. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the function and its derivative, with no explicit consensus reached.

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There are indications of errors in the initial problem statement, and participants are addressing these inconsistencies while attempting to clarify their understanding of the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement



f(x)=x(x2-4)1/2

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so I started by, let,

u=x

u'=1

v=(x2-4)1/2

v'=1/2(x2-4)-1/2(2x)

so using the product rule

f'(x)= (x2-4)1/2+x(1/2(x2-4)-1/2(2x))

=(x2-4)1/2+x2(x2-4)-1/2

Now do I just differentiate the second term again I am not quiete understanding what needs to be done here??
 
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Where did the 4 come from?
 
NewtonianAlch said:
Where did the 4 come from?

Sorry error in the question i'll edit now.
 
charmedbeauty said:

Homework Statement



f(x)=x(x2+1)1/2
...
v=(x2-4)1/2
Ok so you changed the question to [tex]f(x)=x\sqrt{x^2-4}[/tex] ?

f'(x)= √(x2-4)1/2...

You have both the square root and the power to a half. Choose one or the other, but not both :-p

Now do I just differentiate the second term again I am not quiete understanding what needs to be done here??

You have a function f(x) that is comprised of the product of two other functions g(x) and h(x), so [tex]f(x)=g(x)h(x)[/tex] where g(x)=x and [itex]h(x)=\sqrt{x^2-4}[/itex]. Now, to take the derivative of f(x) we use the rule

[tex]f'(x)=g(x)h'(x)+g'(x)h(x)[/tex]

Or, if we let g(x)=u and h(x)=v,

[tex]f'(x)=uv'+u'v[/tex]

So once you've found the derivative of u and v, you plug u, v, u' and v' into the formula to obtain the derivative of f.
 
Mentallic said:
Ok so you changed the question to [tex]f(x)=x\sqrt{x^2-4}[/tex] ?



You have both the square root and the power to a half. Choose one or the other, but not both :-p



You have a function f(x) that is comprised of the product of two other functions g(x) and h(x), so [tex]f(x)=g(x)h(x)[/tex] where g(x)=x and [itex]h(x)=\sqrt{x^2-4}[/itex]. Now, to take the derivative of f(x) we use the rule

[tex]f'(x)=g(x)h'(x)+g'(x)h(x)[/tex]

Or, if we let g(x)=u and h(x)=v,

[tex]f'(x)=uv'+u'v[/tex]

So once you've found the derivative of u and v, you plug u, v, u' and v' into the formula to obtain the derivative of f.

But If you look at my working I have already done that? but I still get left with x2(x2-4)-1/2+the first term.

but the answer says (2x2-4)/(x2-4)1/2

for starters where does that fraction even come from?

and when I differentiate once I don't get the answer I get

=(x2-4)1/2+x2(x2-4)-1/2
 
charmedbeauty said:
But If you look at my working I have already done that? but I still get left with x2(x2-4)-1/2+the first term.

but the answer says (2x2-4)/(x2-4)1/2

for starters where does that fraction even come from?

and when I differentiate once I don't get the answer I get

=(x2-4)1/2+x2(x2-4)-1/2

That second term should be x^2/(...) not x^2(...)

That answer is the same, they've just rationalised. Multiply through by the denominator of the fraction, and you will get the answer they gave. It's the same thing.
 
NewtonianAlch said:
That second term should be x^2/(...) not x^2(...)

That answer is the same, they've just rationalised. Multiply through by the denominator of the fraction, and you will get the answer they gave. It's the same thing.

Ok Thanks!
 
charmedbeauty said:
But If you look at my working I have already done that?
Yes, I know. I was trying to help you get rid of your uncertainties as to what you need to do from there :smile:
 
Mentallic said:
Yes, I know. I was trying to help you get rid of your uncertainties as to what you need to do from there :smile:


OOOHHH thanks a bunch mentallic!:-p
 

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