Need help How to make Hydrogen peroxide ''H2O2'' ?

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The discussion centers on the challenges of synthesizing Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) for use in neon lights and as a fuel. Participants emphasize that creating H2O2 from water and oxygen is highly complex and dangerous, requiring advanced chemical knowledge and specialized equipment. It is noted that concentrated H2O2 is heavily regulated in the US and EU, and attempting to distill it poses significant safety risks, including the potential for explosion. The consensus is that neither the original poster nor their friend should attempt to make H2O2.

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Need help! How to make Hydrogen peroxide ''H2O2'' ?

i want to make a neon light with H2O2 but the problem is i can't find it anywhere even in my school and i was thinking how its H2O2 < ---- > H2O + O2 and that mean i can mix it but i don't know how.
can anybody show me how to do it step by step.
and if you have an other idea, you can just say it
thanks advance :)
 
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Hydrogen peroxide is difficult to make from water and oxygen by someone of your skill level.
Neon light won't work with H2O2 so you are probably wasting your time anyway. Is someone playing a prank on you?
 


you said "Hydrogen peroxide is difficult to make from water and oxygen by someone of your skill level"
so i believe you know how, i can take that to a friend and I'm sure he knows about it

and it's not just for the neon light
i want it to make H2O2 as fuel and some stuff
and thanks for ur replay
 


aiisshsaak said:
you said "Hydrogen peroxide is difficult to make from water and oxygen by someone of your skill level"
so i believe you know how, i can take that to a friend and I'm sure he knows about it

and it's not just for the neon light
i want it to make H2O2 as fuel and some stuff
and thanks for ur replay
As a propellant, there won't really be a safe way to get high enough concentrations. It would be possible to distill it from a dilute solution, but due to it's instability, you would need to do so at high pressure. I would rather doubt you would have the resources to carry out such a distillation and attempting it at normal pressures runs a rather large risk of it exploding on you.
 


Short answer: neither you, nor your friend, can make Hydrogen Peroxide.

More complete explanation: Look - you can buy 3%, cheap (I bought a liter yesterday at Safeway for $1.79, to oxidize some copper). And you mentioned "fuel and some stuff". So I assume you mean you want concentrated H2O2, and probably a decent amount.

1) It's HIGHLY regulated, certainly in the US and the EU, and probably most other non-3rd-world countries. I'm guessing that making, or possessing, 70% H2O2 and above, is almost certainly a serious felony in the US.

2) Making concentrated H2O2 is INSANELY difficult, requiring SERIOUS chemical knowledge and sophisticated equipment. No - you're NOT "just mixing together" water and oxygen - it *should* be that simple, but it ain't.

3) The stuff itself is WACKY dangerous. Trust me - I own an energy company. I make synthetic gasoline in a steel-box lab filled with explosive gases and liquids at high pressure and temperature, in steel tubes rated for nuclear plants. And I work IN THAT BOX, 3 feet from those tubes.

And I wouldn't even TRY to distill, or make, fuel-grade H2O2. Why not? Because it would explode and kill me. Not 'might' - would.

If you want propellants, like for rockets -- Google for "Tripoli Rocketry", look at some of the options for solid-phase propellants. Liquid phase scares hell out of even the pros. And - dude - learn before you burn. ;-)
 
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