Need help with hw problem (torque question)

  • Thread starter Thread starter bigbuck
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the torque required for a solid disk to complete a specified number of revolutions within a given time frame. The subject area pertains to rotational dynamics, specifically focusing on torque and angular acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of torque using the moment of inertia and angular acceleration. There are attempts to clarify the definitions of variables used in the problem, particularly the notation for angular acceleration. Some participants question the method of calculating angular acceleration and whether the initial calculations are correct.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion over variable notation and the calculations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proper formula for average angular acceleration, but there is no consensus on the correctness of the initial calculations or the approach to finding the torque.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge posed by the professor's unconventional variable notation, which complicates understanding and communication regarding the problem. There is also mention of the course materials being vague, contributing to the participants' difficulties in grasping the concepts.

bigbuck
Messages
6
Reaction score
0
The question is:

A solid disk with m=60.0kg and a diameter of 48.0cm is to be turned from rest through 12.0 revolutions in 6.00s. Calculate the torque required to accomplish this.

What I've got is this:

Tau=I*al(angular acceleration)

I=.5*m*r^2 .5*60.0kg*.240m^2=1.728kg*m^2

Al = om/t (convert to om and then to al)12revs/6sec=2.00revs/sec = 12.56rads/s / 6

sec = 2.09 rads/s^2=al

1.728kg*m^2 * 2.09rads/s^2= 3.61N*m ...is this right?

This is an online physics course and I am getting a little lost at this point. The course notes are vague at best and I am just not sure if i have the irght answers or not.
ANy help would be appreciated.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
bigbuck said:
The question is:

A solid disk with m=60.0kg and a diameter of 48.0cm is to be turned from rest through 12.0 revolutions in 6.00s. Calculate the torque required to accomplish this.

What I've got is this:

Tau=I*al(angular acceleration)

I=.5*m*r^2 .5*60.0kg*.240m^2=1.728kg*m^2

Al = om/t (convert to om and then to al)12revs/6sec=2.00revs/sec = 12.56rads/s / 6

sec = 2.09 rads/s^2=al
If a disk has a constant angular acceleration, a rad/s2, then in t seconds, it will have reached angular speed at rad/s and will have moved (1/2)at2 rad or (1/2)[\pi]at2 revolutions. Another way of looking at that is that if it has constant acceleration, a, it will have average speed (1/2)at over time t. Moving through 12.0 revolutions in 6 seconds means it had an angular acceleration of 12/72= 1/6 rev/s2= [itex]\pi[/itex]/6= 0.523 rad/sec2, not 2.09.

1.728kg*m^2 * 2.09rads/s^2= 3.61N*m ...is this right?

This is an online physics course and I am getting a little lost at this point. The course notes are vague at best and I am just not sure if i have the irght answers or not.
ANy help would be appreciated.
 
still confused

I am sorry.
One of the problems is that this proffesor, while a good and helpful person, has used his own characters for the variables..ie "om" instead of w for omega, and "al" for angular acceleration. While i know he thinks he's helping, it is causing me great problems when i refer to the text or get help from others, I am getting "lost in translation" because I don't understand the language. I am very frustrated because i know this is simple.

Is "at" angular acceleration?

I don't see how to get the acceleration from the given info.
 
anyone?
 
It is unfortunate that your professor does that. I would suggest buying a used textbook and create a key or something so you can translate. Anyway, you are looking for angular acceleration. Heres the equation in the proper language:

a(avg)=w2-w1/t2-t1 rad/s^2

average angular acceleration = change in angular speed divided by change in time
Units: radians per second squared

Once you find this, you can easily derive the torque. Good luck!
 

Similar threads

Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
7K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
20K
Replies
2
Views
7K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
5K