Need help with triple integral volume question

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The problem involves evaluating a triple integral to find the volume of a region defined by a sphere of radius 2 with a central cylinder of radius 1 drilled out. The integral is set up in spherical coordinates, and participants are discussing the appropriate bounds for the integration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral and the conversion to spherical coordinates. There are questions about the bounds for the angles and the radial distance, particularly concerning the intersection of the cylinder and sphere.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts to set up the integral correctly. Some guidance has been offered regarding the bounds for the angles, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to check sketches for accuracy.

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Homework Statement


A central cylinder of radius 1 is drilled out a sphere of radius 2. Let B be the region inside the sphere but outside the cylinder.
Evaluate

∫B 1/x2+y2+z2 dV


The Attempt at a Solution



Volume = ∫∫∫ 1/x2+y2+z2 dV = ∫∫∫ 1/[itex]\rho[/itex]2 sin[itex]\phi[/itex][itex]\rho[/itex]2 d[itex]\rho[/itex]d[itex]\theta[/itex]d[itex]\phi[/itex]

where
0<[itex]\phi[/itex]<pi
0<[itex]\theta[/itex]<2pi
1<[itex]\rho[/itex]<2

so i figured i should convert it to spherical coordinate and the final answer i get is 4pi.
Did i set up my integral properly? Is this question doable using cylindrical coordinate?
 
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The integral is ok. The bounds could use some work. I assume you putting the cylinder along the z-axis. phi doesn't go from 0 to pi and the inner value of r will depend on phi, won't it? Did you draw a sketch?
 
yes i put the cylinder along the z-axis.
ok so i drew projection on yz-axis which looks like two half circles with a gap in the middle.

so then would the phi ranges from 0 to pi/6, and rho range from 1/sin(phi) to 2?

which gives me an answer of 2pi(1-pi/6)
 
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mottov2 said:
yes i put the cylinder along the z-axis.
ok so i drew projection on yz-axis which looks like two half circles with a gap in the middle.

so then would the phi ranges from 0 to pi/6, and rho range from 1/sin(phi) to 2?

which gives me an answer of 2pi(1-pi/6)

pi/6 is one value of phi where the cylinder intersects the cylinder alright. But so far your integral is over the top 'cap' of the sphere. You want the part outside of the cylinder. Check your sketch. But 1/sin(phi) looks good for a lower bound of r.
 
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The sketch is all right, the range of phi is not. Phi is the angle the radius encloses with the positive z axis. It goes from pi/6, it is correct, but then it increases how far? to -phi/6?
Think: without the cylinder, you would integrate from phi=0 to phi=-0?

ehild
 
ohhhhhhh

ok so then phi should range from pi/6 to 5pi/6 ?
 
mottov2 said:
ohhhhhhh

ok so then phi should range from pi/6 to 5pi/6 ?

I think those are the correct bounds.

ehild
 

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