Need physics explanation for defects after epoxy cure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the formation of defects in epoxy after curing, specifically addressing bubbles, cracks, voids, and funnel shapes observed in capillary tubes. Participants seek to understand the underlying physics of these phenomena, with implications for engineering applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that bubbles form due to air trapped in the liquid expanding during curing, potentially influenced by heat or pressure changes.
  • Another participant proposes that cracks result from uneven contraction, where one side of the epoxy shrinks faster than the other.
  • A participant hypothesizes that voids may form as a consequence of contraction during the curing process.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the formation of funnel shapes, with one participant speculating that a drop in pressure during contraction could cause air to rush in and create the funnel shape.
  • One participant mentions that dissolved gases and moisture in uncured resin could contribute to bubble formation and questions whether the samples were degassed before use.
  • Another participant identifies shrinkage cracking as a possible explanation for the observed cracks, noting the strong bond between the epoxy and the capillary walls.
  • A later reply suggests that silanizing the interior of the tubes might prevent funnel formation by allowing the resin to shrink away from the walls.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the causes of defects, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the explanations for the observed phenomena.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss potential factors such as air entrapment, uneven contraction, and the influence of surface treatment on defect formation. However, the discussion does not resolve the complexities of these interactions or the specific conditions under which they occur.

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Qn:Why do bubbles like this form?
-My guess is that intially air trapped in the liquid before cure expands in all direction(to maintain equal pressure) during curing, as curing shrinks the epoxy, causing bubbles to form. (Or is it the heat which expands it?)

Microscope picture of bubble:

Qn: Why do cracks like this form?
-My guess is that there is uneven contraction, 1 side contracting faster than other, causing a crack.

Qn: Why do voids form?
-My guess is that there is contraction, leading to voids.

Qn**:Why do "funnels" form?
-I don't know, the funnels form at both ends of the capillary tubes, only at both ends, nowhere else, why? My guess is as it contracts, a drop in pressure causes air to rush in, forming a "funnel" shape.

I performed these experiments in a capillary tube (not me in one, but the epoxy)

Looking forward to lucid, physics explanations if possible (this is for my engineering project)
 

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Cracks:
 

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" Funnels " :
 

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unscientific said:
Qn:Why do bubbles like this form?
-My guess is that intially air trapped in the liquid before cure expands in all direction(to maintain equal pressure) during curing, as curing shrinks the epoxy, causing bubbles to form. (Or is it the heat which expands it?)

Microscope picture of bubble:

Qn: Why do cracks like this form?
-My guess is that there is uneven contraction, 1 side contracting faster than other, causing a crack.

Qn: Why do voids form?
-My guess is that there is contraction, leading to voids.

Qn**:Why do "funnels" form?
-I don't know, the funnels form at both ends of the capillary tubes, only at both ends, nowhere else, why? My guess is as it contracts, a drop in pressure causes air to rush in, forming a "funnel" shape.

I performed these experiments in a capillary tube (not me in one, but the epoxy)

Looking forward to lucid, physics explanations if possible (this is for my engineering project)

Dissolved gases and moisture in the uncured resin can cause this. Were your samples degassed (along with the capillary) before you loaded them?
 
unscientific said:
Cracks:

These look like shrinkage cracking. There is a strong bond between the epoxy and the walls of the capillary so when the resin shrinks, you get weird looking cracks in the center where the stresses are the highest.
 
unscientific said:
" Funnels " :

If you were to silanize the interior of the tubes (trimethylsilyl chloride or preferably a perfluoro analog) the resin could shrink away from the wall and the funnels might not form. Your epoxy plug would pull away from the walls and shrink within the tubing most likely.
 

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