Need some expert help on doppler's effect

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The discussion centers on calculating the speed of a detector moving away from sound tubes while detecting frequencies. The fundamental frequency for each tube is derived using the equations for harmonic frequencies, specifically f = n*v/(4L) for one open end tubes and f = n*v/(2L) for two open end tubes. The calculated speed of the detector, vD, is consistently 228.67 m/s across all tubes, confirming that the ratio of frequencies remains constant regardless of tube length or configuration. This conclusion highlights the inherent properties of harmonic frequencies in sound waves.

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Homework Statement


There are in total 4 tubes. The 3rd harmonic is set up in each tube, and some of the sound is detected by detector D, which is moving directly away from the tubes. What is the speed of the detector if the detected frequency is equal to each tube's fundamental frequency?

Tube 1: length 1.0m, one open end
Tube 2: length 1.0m, two open end
Tube 3: length 2.0m, one open end
Tube 4: length 2.0m, two open end
speed of sound = 343 m/s

Homework Equations



f = n*v/(4L) for one end tubes
f = n*v/(2L) for two end tubes
f = f0 [(v+/-vD)/(v+/-vS]

The Attempt at a Solution



So i just plug in the known values into the equation, but I got the same speed of the detector for each tube. Is that supposed to be correct?
For more clarification, I will provide an example of how I calculate using data for tube 1:

f0 = n*v/(4L) = 3*(343m/s)/[4(1.0m)] = 257.25s-1
f = n*v/(4L) = 1*(343m/s)/[4(1.0m)] = 85.75s-1

f = f0 [(v+/-vD)/(v+/-vS]
f = f0 [(v-vD)/v]
85.75s-1 = 257.25s-1 * [(343m/s-vD)/343m/s]
vD = 228.67 m/s
 
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Yes. Irrespective of the length of the tube, or whether it is open or closed, the 3rd harmonic is always 3 times the frequency of the fundamental.
So in the Doppler formula, you always have the same ratio of the two frequencies,and therefore the same speed for the detector.
 

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