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The discussion revolves around finding the domain of integral values that satisfy the inequality 4x^2 - 160x + 1500 ≤ 900. Participants are analyzing the roots of the equation and the implications of the quadratic function's behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the roots of the inequality and question the validity of the proposed domain (5 ≤ x ≤ 35). There are attempts to clarify the implications of the quadratic's graph and its behavior between the roots.

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There is ongoing exploration of the correct domain, with some participants suggesting that the original poster's interpretation may not be accurate. Various interpretations of the inequalities derived from the roots are being examined, and guidance is being offered regarding the properties of quadratic functions.

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Some participants express confusion over terminology, alternating between "range" and "domain," which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The original poster acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the implications of the inequality.

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I have this inequality:

[tex]4x^2 - 160x + 1500 \le 900[/tex]

I brought the 900 to the LHS and found the roots (35.81, 4.19). Now I just need the domain of integral values that satisfy. Can I say [tex]5 \le x \le 35[/tex]?
 
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The range ([itex]5\le x\le 35[/itex]) you have is not correct. Thinking of like this might help get you a range: [itex](x-35.81)(x-4.91)\le 0[/itex]. From the solution you can see what range you should have.
 
assyrian_77 said:
The range ([itex]5\le x\le 35[/itex]) you have is not correct. Thinking of like this might help get you a range: [itex](x-35.81)(x-4.91)\le 0[/itex]. From the solution you can see what range you should have.

Sorry, I meant domain not range. Or is that what you meant too?
 
[itex](x-35.81)(x-4.91)\le 0[/itex] gives you two inequalities, right? What can you conclude from them?
 
[tex]x \le 35.81[/tex]
[tex]x \le 4.91[/tex]

The second one can't be right...
 
cscott said:
[tex]x \le 35.81[/tex]
[tex]x \le 4.91[/tex]

Correct?
Yep. And what can you say from this?
 
Well, the first would be redundant.

How can this be correct, because if I substitute x = 3 in my orginal inequality, I get [itex]1056 \le 900[/itex]
 
cscott said:
[tex]x \le 35.81[/tex]
[tex]x \le 4.91[/tex]

The second one can't be right...

No, that's not right. Think about the graph of a quadratic. If
[tex]y= 4x^2 - 160x + 1500[/tex] that's a parabola opening upward.
Where is
[tex]y= 4x^2 - 160x + 1500= 0[/tex]
y will be negative between them.
 
cscott said:
I have this inequality:

[tex]4x^2 - 160x + 1500 \le 900[/tex]

I brought the 900 to the LHS and found the roots (35.81, 4.19). Now I just need the domain of integral values that satisfy. I can say [tex]5 \le x \le 35[/tex], but this doesn't hold true for the inequality with 900 on the RHS because the values go below zero for a bit (which doesn't make sense in this problem). What am I missing here?
Hmm, okay, say you have the a quadratic function:
f(x) := ax2 + bx + c, which has 2 solutions:
x1, and x2. (And x1 < x2)
Then if x0 is in ]x1, x2[
Then af(x0) < 0, that means if a > 0, then f(x0) < 0, and vice versa, if a < 0, then f(x0) > 0.
If x0 is not in ]x1, x2[, then af(x0) > 0.
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Example:
Solve:
x2 - 3x - 1 > -3
<=> x2 - 3x + 2 > 0
<=> (x - 2) (x - 1) > 0
<=> x < 1, or x > 2 (since a = 1 > 0, x1 = 1, and x2 = 2).
So can you apply it to your problem? :)
 
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So if I'm interpreting you guys correctly, then the domain in my OP is correct? (5 <= x <= 35)
 
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cscott said:
So if I'm interpreting you guys correctly, then the domain in my OP is correct? (5 <= x <= 35)
Yes, it's correct. :smile:
 

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