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The discussion revolves around understanding equations related to the rotation of axes in a two-dimensional space, specifically in the context of calculus and vector fields. The original poster expresses confusion about an equation that arises during a proof involving the gradient of a scalar field, such as temperature, and how changes in the position vector affect the components of this gradient.

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  • Participants inquire about the derivation and understanding of the rotation equations, questioning how these equations relate to the original problem. There are suggestions to look up related concepts such as rotation matrices and coordinate transformations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing references and suggesting further reading to clarify the concepts. Some participants express a need for a more straightforward explanation of the equations and their derivation, while others offer insights into the mathematical framework involved.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the nature of the equations, with some participants suggesting that the problem may not require advanced calculus but rather a basic understanding of algebra and trigonometry. The original poster's request for clarity indicates a gap in understanding that is being explored through various responses.

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Homework Statement
I was in the middle of a proof untill I came up with an equation that came out of nowhere and now I am not able to think how that came. So I need help with the understanding of the following equations and how we came up with it. It actually is an attempt to show that on changing the components position vector R, the components of grad T(temperature as an example of scalar field varying with respect to position) change appropriately.
Relevant Equations
x' = x.cos(a) + y.sin(b) ;
y' = -x.sin(a) + y.cos(a);
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The text involves a standard rotation of the axes by an angle ##\theta##. I'm not sure what your question is.
 
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Shourya Tripathi said:
Homework Statement: I was in the middle of a proof until I came up with an equation that came out of nowhere
Which equation ?

Shourya Tripathi said:
and now I am not able to think how that came. So I need help with the understanding of the following equations and how we came up with it. It actually is an attempt to show that on changing the components position vector R, the components of grad T(temperature as an example of scalar field varying with respect to position) change appropriately.


:welcome: !
A far cry indeed from curvature of space-time
Shourya Tripathi said:
TL;DR Summary: Since it seems so non intuitive that due to its curvature, the space tends to push us towards that mass. I thought that there could be something that is responsible for that, since how can nothing push something?

I don't see no ##a## and ##b##; do you mean
Shourya Tripathi said:
Relevant Equations: $$\begin{align*}x' &= \phantom - x\cos\theta + y\sin\theta \tag {2.16}\\ y' &= -x\sin\theta + y\cos\theta \tag {2.17}\end{align*}$$

My neck hurts :mad:

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And a reference to an even clearer picture with a more complete context here wouldn't harm either :wink:

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PeroK said:
The text involves a standard rotation of the axes by an angle ##\theta##. I'm not sure what your question is.
I just need a brief explanation on it and want to understand how we made our approach to that equation.
 
Shourya Tripathi said:
I just need a brief explanation on it and want to understand how we made our approach to that equation.
Just do an Internet search for rotation of coordinates or coordinate axes.
 
Shourya Tripathi said:
I just need a brief explanation on it and want to understand how we made our approach to that equation.
That looks like a rotation of the plane. It's straightforward, a linear map, thus representable and, in your case, reptesented, as a matrix. Look up " rotation matrix in R^2", or " Rotation of the Plane".
 
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Shourya Tripathi said:
I just need a brief explanation on it and want to understand how we made our approach to that equation.
It's not calculus or anything higher than algebra. Just look at diagram (a), especially for simple cases of ##\theta=##0 deg, 45 deg, 90 deg, 180 deg. and you will see that the equations are correct.
 

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