Negative carbon emissions to fight ocean acidification?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential impact of achieving negative carbon emissions on ocean acidification, particularly focusing on the relationship between atmospheric and oceanic carbon dioxide levels. Participants explore the implications of lowering atmospheric CO2 concentrations and how this might influence the diffusion of CO2 between the atmosphere and the ocean.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that negative emissions could help combat ocean acidification by lowering atmospheric CO2 levels, which would theoretically cause CO2 to diffuse from the ocean back into the atmosphere.
  • Another participant counters that the oceans are not currently in equilibrium with the atmosphere and that significant reductions in CO2 would be necessary to slow ocean acidification effectively.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that raising ocean temperatures could lead to increased CO2 release from the oceans, implying a complex interaction between temperature and carbon dynamics.
  • One participant humorously questions the length of the word "temperatures," indicating a light-hearted tone amidst the technical discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between negative emissions and ocean acidification, with no consensus on the effectiveness of negative emissions in addressing the issue. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which negative emissions would impact oceanic CO2 levels and acidification.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the current state of equilibrium between oceanic and atmospheric CO2 that are not fully explored. The discussion also touches on the complexities of temperature effects on CO2 release, which are not resolved.

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The IPCC report strongly encouraged not only trying to get our carbon dioxide emissions down to fight climate change, but to go into negative emissions so as to draw the carbon dioxide out of the air (since it's too high as it is). Wouldn't that help to fight ocean acidification too?

Because from what I understand, the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere and the ocean are in pseudo-equilibrium (if they weren't there'd be a lot more CO2 in the air, given that some of it diffuses into the ocean). So with negative emissions then, if the concentration of CO2 in the air was lowered (by whatever method) relative to the concentration in the ocean, wouldn't that would cause the diffusion to go the other way so as to maintain equilibrium? The carbon dioxide would come out of solution in the ocean to be taken up by the atmosphere (and then captured via whatever method used to get negative emissions). Of course, if so, that means that we would need to have negative emissions then for longer than initially thought, since we'd be drawing down the carbon content of not only the atmosphere, but the ocean too.

(Posting in the physics section as opposed to the chemistry section since the question is mainly about diffusion, a physical process as opposed to a chemical one. If in error on where to post, feel free to point to where it should go.)
 
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The oceans are quite a bit away from an equilibrium with today's atmosphere. It would slow ocean acidification unless we take out much more CO2 than current plans hope for.
 
raise ocean temps, oceans will release C02 ;)
 
zanick said:
raise ocean temps, oceans will release C02 ;)
That's a bit of a two edged sword though. (is the word 'temperatures' too long to type?)
 

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