Net force exerted on the two-particle system

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net force exerted on a two-particle system, where the positions of the particles are defined by vector equations in the xy plane. The problem involves understanding the motion of two particles with given masses and their respective position equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss taking the second derivative of the position equations to find acceleration vectors. There is an attempt to calculate the net force using the formula f=ma, but confusion arises regarding the correct application of mass and direction.

Discussion Status

Some participants are clarifying their understanding of the forces acting on each mass and questioning the calculations made. There is an exploration of the components of the net force and how to properly account for the total mass of the system. Guidance is offered regarding unit conversions and the meaning of micro (μ) in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the measurements are given in centimeters and grams, which may affect the calculations and unit conversions needed for the final answer in microNewtons (μN).

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net force exerted on the system quick question- halllp lol.

Homework Statement


The vector position of a 3.10 g particle moving in the xy plane varies in time according to the following equation.

r1 = (3i+3j)t + 2jt^2

At the same time, the vector position of a 5.15 g particle varies according to the following equation.
r2= 3i-2it^2 -6jt

For each equation, t is in s and r is in cm. Solve the following when t = 2.00

(e) Find the net force exerted on the two-particle system.
i μN
j μN


Homework Equations



f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Took the 2nd derivative to get the acceleration vectors.

r1 : 4 j (mass is 3.1g)
r2 : -4 i (mass is 5.15g)



I tried this:

( (m2)(4 i) ) / (m1 + m2)

and got -1.93515 in the i-hat direction. It is incorrect : "Your answer is off by a multiple of ten."
 
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Demix500 said:
Took the 2nd derivative to get the acceleration vectors.

r1 : 4 j (mass is 3.1g)
r2 : -4 i (mass is 5.15g)
Looks good.

I tried this:

( (m2)(4 i) ) / (m1 + m2)
Not sure what you were going for here.

What's the net force on each mass?
 
Well the vector r2 is the only mass going in the i-hat direction. And since its a system, I divided by the total mass
 
Demix500 said:
Well the vector r2 is the only mass going in the i-hat direction.
Were you trying to find one component of the net force?
And since its a system, I divided by the total mass
Does that make sense? Check units.
 
The answers they want is in μN. Newtons I understand, but what is μ doing in there?
 
Demix500 said:
The answers they want is in μN. Newtons I understand, but what is μ doing in there?
That just means micro = 10-6. (Realize that you're given measurements in cm and grams.)
 

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