Net magnetic force on a loop parallel to a wire

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The problem involves a long, straight wire carrying a current and a square loop positioned parallel to the wire, also carrying a current. Participants are discussing the net magnetic force acting on the loop due to the wire's magnetic field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the effects of distance on the magnetic field produced by the wire and questioning how this affects the forces on different parts of the loop. There is also discussion about the direction of the force vectors acting on the loop.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the implications of the magnetic field's behavior and the forces on the loop. Some guidance has been offered regarding the right-hand rule and the cancellation of forces on the perpendicular sides of the loop.

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There is mention of the equation used for calculating force, and participants are considering the impact of distance on the magnetic field's strength, which may influence their calculations.

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Homework Statement



A long, straight wire carries a current of I1 = 15.8 A. Next to the wire is a square loop with sides L = 1.17 m in length. d = 1.42 m, as shown in the figure below.

The loop carries a current of I2 = 2.66 A in a direction parallel to the wire. Calculate the magnitude of the net force acting on the loop.


Homework Equations



The equation i have used is Force = I2*L*[(μ0*I1)/(2*pi*d)]

The Attempt at a Solution



Because i am looking for force of the loop, here are my numbers plugged in:

Force = 2.66*1.17*[(μ0*15.8A)/(2*3.14*1.42m)]
= 6.93*10^-6N, answer is incorrect


I am stumped.. any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
 
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Remember that the straight wire's magnetic field decreases when distance increases. What happens to the force in the parts of the loop that are perpendicular to the wire? Which way are the force vectors pointing?
 
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The left perpendicular side of the loop has a force vector pointing up, towards the straight wire, and the right side has a force vector pointing down. Am i using the right equation, or is there more i need to add to it?
 
Cheezay said:
The left perpendicular side of the loop has a force vector pointing up, towards the straight wire, and the right side has a force vector pointing down.

No. Use the right hand rule. Thumb points where current points, index points towards the magnetic field and middle shows the direction of force. You're right, thought, they point in different directions an are equal in magnitude so they cancel each other out. All you have to worry is the parallel parts.

Am i using the right equation, or is there more i need to add to it?

That's the right equation. You just need to remember that distance affects the magnitude of the wire's magnetic field.
 

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