Net Neutrality wins minor battle in long war

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The discussion centers on the ongoing debate about net neutrality, particularly in light of the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) potential sanctions against Comcast for allegedly blocking peer-to-peer traffic, notably from BitTorrent users. The FCC's chairman stated that Comcast's actions violated principles ensuring open internet access. Participants express concerns about the implications of blocking certain types of traffic, arguing that it undermines net neutrality and consumer rights. Some believe that users who consume excessive bandwidth should pay more, while others argue that blocking protocols like BitTorrent is unjust and could lead to broader restrictions on internet access. The conversation also touches on the monopolistic nature of local ISPs, the need for competitive alternatives, and the potential for tiered service models that prioritize certain types of traffic. Overall, the thread reflects a strong advocacy for maintaining an open internet and the importance of regulatory oversight to prevent ISPs from unfairly managing traffic.
  • #31
humanino said:
This is part of the shift cell provided us with. It is not only the fact that text message allows you to keep useful information (such as an address) most easily. It is also the fact that one has greater flexibility. One has to remember before cell phones, we had to make plans in advance, such as "let's meet at 4pm tomorrow". It does not make sense anymore today. Now it's "I'll text you when I get off work". If the other person is busy at the this moment, he'll answer as soon as he will be ready to answer. Which might be 30s if you tried to call him while in the restroom :smile: Or while having an argument with his mother :rolleyes:
I can understand a single text message with 'useful information', e.g. an address, or date/time for rendezvous, i.e. something of which one would like to keep a record. But a text conversation?

I suppose texting (on a cell phone) is just another version of chat (on a computer).
 
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  • #32
We're becoming obsolete Astronuc. We belong to the cave days when people actually spoke to each other and used "voice' as a means of communication. :biggrin:
 
  • #33
Evo said:
We're becoming obsolete Astronuc. We belong to the cave days when people actually spoke to each other and used "voice' as a means of communication. :biggrin:
I'm definitely out of step with the modern world, or perhaps it's the modern culture. I'd much rather hear the other's voice.

The again - before the telephone - people would have to write letters. We still write by email, in this case, on forums.

Nevertheless, I do prefer verbal conversation, especially when the other person has a pleasant voice. :approve:
 
  • #34
Astronuc said:
I'm definitely out of step with the modern world, or perhaps it's the modern culture. I'd much rather hear the other's voice.

The again - before the telephone - people would have to write letters. We still write by email, in this case, on forums.

Nevertheless, I do prefer verbal conversation, especially when the other person has a pleasant voice. :approve:

I hate speaking with people on the telephone. I would rather text message someone than speak on the phone with them, but I would much rather speak with them face to face, rather than texting them.
 
  • #35
NeoDevin said:
I hate speaking with people on the telephone. I would rather text message someone than speak on the phone with them, but I would much rather speak with them face to face, rather than texting them.
I agree with the face-to-face, but most of my oldest friends live far away (several hundred miles to several thousand miles), so I must be satisfied to talk by phone rather than do face-to-face.
 
  • #36
Astronuc said:
I'm definitely out of step with the modern world, or perhaps it's the modern culture. I'd much rather hear the other's voice.

The again - before the telephone - people would have to write letters. We still write by email, in this case, on forums.

Nevertheless, I do prefer verbal conversation, especially when the other person has a pleasant voice. :approve:

I think you have it all wrong Astro.

Texting is essentially enabling us to get a hold of each other whenever we want, and allowing us to get together consistently.

In the past, if you had plans to hang out on the weekend and couldn't get a hold of the person on the weekend because the phones busy or whatever reason, than you never get to hear that person's voice since you never got to hang out.
 
  • #37
Evo said:
people actually spoke to each other and used "voice' as a means of communication.
This is a myth. There never was such a thing :rolleyes:
Last time I used it was friday morning[/size]
 
  • #38
Astronuc said:
I agree with the face-to-face, but most of my oldest friends live far away (several hundred miles to several thousand miles), so I must be satisfied to talk by phone rather than do face-to-face.

But with the wonders of modern technology, you can now do video chats online, and, even better, it doesn't cost anything on top of your current internet service. It's still better than talking on the phone because at least I can see the person I'm talking with. My parents are in Vietnam, and we use online video conferencing to talk, rather than telephones.
 
  • #39
Off-topic, sorry.

OrbitalPower said:
(I'm a registered Green).
But will you be voting Green? They've announced their nominee, as I'm sure you know by now: it's Cynthia McKinney! :ugh:
 
  • #40
Gokul43201 said:
Off-topic, sorry.

But will you be voting Green? They've announced their nominee, as I'm sure you know by now: it's Cynthia McKinney! :ugh:

I probably will. Generally, I don't vote for major party candidates. Plus, I live in a state that is "safe Republican" and is guaranteed to go for McCain, so I generally don't have the "will my vote lead to an even greater evil?" issue as other would-be third party voters. I don't know much about McKinney, with the exception of her police officer incident, but from what I've read on the GP website it seems she's close enough to the Green's core key values.

I do think they could have gone with a less controversial candidate, but really Obama seems to me to be more of the same esp. after his recent backtracking on numerous issues.

My other option would be to consider the "Libertarian" candidate, although Barr has a track record far less Libertarian than McKinney is Green, plus, I have major philosophical differences with the libertarians, esp in regards to the issue of corporate regulation like in this thread.
 
  • #41
With as much money as Comcast makes why don't they start installing Gigabit lines like China has...?
 

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