Neutral Compensator: Learn More About It

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of a neutral compensator, specifically its function and application in electrical systems, particularly in relation to polyphase transformers and phase balancing. Participants explore the implications of a specific electrical setup encountered in a laboratory setting.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the neutral compensator as a special type of polyphase transformer designed to balance line phases and reduce neutral current.
  • One participant recounts an experience at MIT where they discovered a unique three-phase 120 V power setup, questioning how a polyphase transformer could address the issues arising from this configuration.
  • Another participant suggests that a delta-wye transformer would have been a better solution for the setup described, questioning why it was not implemented.
  • There is mention of the cost implications of replacing the existing transformer setup, which may have influenced the decision against using a delta-wye transformer.
  • A participant notes that the setup discussed is uncommon but not unheard of, indicating that if everything is balanced and wired correctly, no corrective action is necessary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the transformer setup and the potential solutions. There is no consensus on the best approach to address the issues raised.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexities of electrical configurations and the assumptions about balance and wiring that may affect the need for corrective measures. Specific technical details regarding the transformer types and their applications remain unresolved.

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I have learned from some source that there is a device called neutral compensator .Iwould like to know about it in detail.
 
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It's special type of polyphase transformer (usually three-phase) which is wound in such a way as to balance the line phases as much as possible, thereby reducing the neutral current. It's connected on parallel across the load. Its phase-balancing capability also means that if you lose a phase entirely, it will regenerate the missing phase, albeit at a lower voltage than normal.
 
negitron said:
It's special type of polyphase transformer (usually three-phase) which is wound in such a way as to balance the line phases as much as possible, thereby reducing the neutral current. It's connected on parallel across the load. Its phase-balancing capability also means that if you lose a phase entirely, it will regenerate the missing phase, albeit at a lower voltage than normal.
A while back, I was a postdoc at MIT, and my techician and I accidentally discovered that the grounded 120 V ac outlets in our lab was actually 3 phase 120 V power, ground being the third phase. In discussing this with the utility people, the big transformer powering the building was a 3-phase delta output, and not a wye output, so they chose one of the 3 [STRIKE]wye[/STRIKE] delta legs as ground. In order to balance the load, about 1/3 of the building got each pair of outputs from the transformer [STRIKE]wye[/STRIKE] delta. We were in the 1/3 of the building that got the pair where ground was the third [STRIKE]wye[/STRIKE] delta leg. How could a polyphase transformer correct this problem?

[Edit] three strikes [STRIKE]wye[/STRIKE] delta
 
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Good question; that's an...odd setup, to say the least. I'll have to mull it over a bit. What they should have done is use a delta-wye transformer. Any idea why they didn't?
 
negitron said:
Good question; that's an...odd setup, to say the least. I'll have to mull it over a bit. What they should have done is use a delta-wye transformer. Any idea why they didn't?
Cost too much to replace.
 
Apparently, this is an uncommon, but not unheard-of setup (rare enough that I'm only just finding out about it) known as a http://ecatalog.squared.com/pubs/Electrical%20Distribution/Pressure%20Switches,%20Bolt-Loc/BP/2700DB0202.pdf . As long as everything is balanced and it's wired properly, no corrective action is needed.
 
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