Neutron flux in coolant and fuel pin in PWR

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The discussion centers on the neutron flux in the coolant and fuel pin of a Pressurized Water Reactor (PWR), specifically focusing on the differences in multi-group neutron flux between these two regions. Participants explore the methodologies for calculating neutron flux without relying solely on Monte Carlo N-Particle Transport Code (MCNP) simulations, considering alternative codes and models.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that fast neutrons produced from fission in the fuel are moderated into thermal neutrons through collisions with the coolant (H2O), leading to differences in neutron flux.
  • There is a suggestion that lattice codes like CASMO or WIMS, along with core simulators such as SIMULATE or PANTHER, are typically used to calculate neutron flux and fission density instead of MCNP.
  • Participants mention that WIMS employs various physical and numerical models, including explicit water gaps and group condensation for pin-by-pin calculations.
  • One participant highlights that the neutron energy spectrum in the coolant or fuel is generally not analyzed unless specific calculations are needed, as the codes typically collapse multigroup data into fewer groups.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of meshing the lattice, with finer meshes being more common due to advancements in processing power and memory capacity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and methodology for analyzing neutron flux in the coolant and fuel pin, with no consensus on a single approach or data source being established.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to specific codes and models, but limitations such as the need for detailed calculations and the complexity of neutron energy spectra are acknowledged without resolution.

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In PWR, fast neutron produced from fission in fuel has been moderated into thermal neutron by the a series of collisiion with coolant,i.e. H2O. So the multi-group neutron flux in coolant and fuel pin has much diffenrce, e.g. the relative higher fast neutron in fuel pin and relative higher thermal neutron in coolant as to the uniform.
Are there specific data about comparision of multi-group neutron flux in coolant and fuel pin in PWR, if it don't need to use MCNP to simulate it ? Thank you very much.
 
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Pengtaofu said:
In PWR, fast neutron produced from fission in fuel has been moderated into thermal neutron by the a series of collisiion with coolant,i.e. H2O. So the multi-group neutron flux in coolant and fuel pin has much diffenrce, e.g. the relative higher fast neutron in fuel pin and relative higher thermal neutron in coolant as to the uniform.
Are there specific data about comparision of multi-group neutron flux in coolant and fuel pin in PWR, if it don't need to use MCNP to simulate it ? Thank you very much.
I'm not sure about the question, but one would ordinarily use a lattice code, e.g., CASMO or WIMS, in conjunction with a core simulator, e.g., SIMULATE or PANTHER, respectively, to calculate the neutron flux and fission density. Using MCNP is also an option.

WIMS Physical models :
explicit water gap;
grids homogenisation;
WIMS Numerical models :
condensed to 6 groups for pin by pin calculation;
2D XY diffusion theory (GOG);
DMOD option (local transport theory correction for neighbouring rods of perturbing cells such as guide tubes or Gd burnable absorber rods)

http://www.answerssoftwareservice.com/resource/pdfs/139.pdf
http://www.jofamericanscience.org/journals/am-sci/am1002/019_23211am100214_125_131.pdf

In general, one would use a small number of groups, e.g., 2 or 4, which are collapsed from a larger number of groups. The WIMS paper mentions 69 groups, but newer versions (WIMS 9 or 10) use more groups. The group neutron spectrum is usually not reported since that would be a tremendous volume of data over time/burnup for even 1/8 or 1/4 of an assembly. Usually, there is a numerically processed mean or smeared value.

Meshing the lattice is also important, and finer meshes are more often used now, because we have access to faster processors and greater memory capacity.
 
Normally, one does not look at the neutron energy spectrum in the coolant or fuel, unless one is digging into the details of a calculation, e.g., looking at specific cross-sections, or effects of specific nuclides/isotopes. The codes process the multigroup data and collapse into two, three or four groups, depending on the code system, and the flux is smeared over the fuel, cladding and coolant.
 
OK. Thank you very much for providing the general introduction and the papers .
 

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