New airbus a330 or 300 or whichever

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The discussion revolves around the Airbus A380, focusing on its commercial flight status, design features, and implications for airport infrastructure. Participants express curiosity about the aircraft's capabilities and share opinions on its size and operational challenges.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the status of commercial flights for the Airbus A380, with one noting that flights are expected to start in 2006.
  • There are discussions about the design of the cockpit and the number of passengers the aircraft can carry, with some expressing concern over the aircraft's size.
  • Participants mention the need for airport modifications to accommodate the A380, including changes to runways, jetways, and passenger areas.
  • One participant references the Kansai International Airport as an example of a successful airport built on water, while others express skepticism about similar projects in the U.S.
  • Concerns are raised about the A380's weight and its impact on airport infrastructure, including runway strength and wake turbulence compared to smaller aircraft.
  • Some participants speculate on the future of air travel, suggesting a trend towards smaller and more efficient aircraft, contrasting with the A380's design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of curiosity and skepticism regarding the A380's operational capabilities and the challenges it presents to existing airport infrastructure. There is no clear consensus on the feasibility of building airports on water or the future direction of air travel.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various technical and logistical challenges related to the A380, including runway requirements, airport modifications, and regulatory approvals, without resolving these issues.

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  • #32
The biggest problem most carriers will have with using the A380 is the massive weight of the airplane. Most airports will have to rebuild there runways and any tunnels or roadways that pass under them. Also the A380 has a much larger wake disturbance pattern and dispersal time compared to a 747. This can create possible jams and delays in larger more congested hubs. Also Airbuss will have to make some changes to the flight control systems to get FAA approval. So if you want to ride on a A380 you will need to goto Europe or Asia. I think the future of air travel is in the smaller, faster, lighter, and cheaper to fly airplanes that is in the direction Boeing is going.
 
  • #33
give me a hit to Chitose :wink:
 
  • #34
Argentum Vulpes said:
The biggest problem most carriers will have with using the A380 is the massive weight of the airplane. Most airports will have to rebuild there runways and any tunnels or roadways that pass under them. Also the A380 has a much larger wake disturbance pattern and dispersal time compared to a 747. This can create possible jams and delays in larger more congested hubs. Also Airbuss will have to make some changes to the flight control systems to get FAA approval. So if you want to ride on a A380 you will need to goto Europe or Asia. I think the future of air travel is in the smaller, faster, lighter, and cheaper to fly airplanes that is in the direction Boeing is going.
u need to turn on that kidn of panel anytime u need it as advertisement or thereaint going to be meaningfull flights, i guess.

advice for u, if u need to fly fast, effieciently[/color], u must get boeing tickets[/color].

good luck if u have any journey to go...
 
  • #35
Argentum Vulpes said:
I think the future of air travel is in the smaller, faster, lighter, and cheaper to fly airplanes that is in the direction Boeing is going.

Yah, at some point some environmentalist is going to say this new airplane "Is the flying SUV! Its evil! It takes up so much gas!" and whether or not its true, it'll be a disaster for airbus (especially if it happens sooner or later).

I've always wondered how people are going to make aircraft "environmentally friendly". People won't rest until gas is no longer used but it seems like the only things we possesses that keep huge masses in the air at 550mph is gas (at least the only closely economical thing we have)
 
  • #36
brewnog said:
Just some massive polystyrene floats, some girders, balsa wood, tarmac, a few light bulbs, some cable, and a couple of thousand rolls of gaffer tape!
You guys are a step ahead. It took the Japanese years to figure out the balsa wood part.
 

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