New Hygiene Head Orders Staff to Wash Bearings

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The discussion revolves around a new hygiene head's directive to wash machine bearings, which has raised concerns among staff regarding the necessity of grease for proper functioning. Participants express frustration and share experiences related to hygiene and safety protocols in industrial settings, highlighting potential consequences of the hygiene head's actions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that washing bearings removes essential grease, leading to potential machine failure.
  • Others express disbelief at the hygiene head's lack of understanding regarding the importance of grease for bearings.
  • A participant mentions preparing a parts list for expected damages due to the washing of bearings.
  • Some participants share anecdotes about similar experiences with safety and hygiene personnel lacking practical knowledge.
  • There are suggestions that the hygiene head may be overly focused on regulations without understanding their implications.
  • One participant proposes informing the hygiene head that the grease used is sterile and safe, but expresses uncertainty about whether this will change her approach.
  • Several comments reflect a general frustration with bureaucratic safety measures that seem disconnected from practical realities.

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Participants generally agree on the potential negative impact of washing bearings without grease, but there is no consensus on how to address the situation or the hygiene head's motivations. Multiple competing views on the effectiveness of communication with the hygiene head remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of common sense in some safety regulations and the challenges posed by strict adherence to protocols that may not consider practical implications. There are references to specific safety practices that may not align with operational realities.

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Individuals working in industrial settings, particularly those involved in maintenance, hygiene, and safety protocols, may find the discussion relevant. It may also interest those studying workplace safety and operational efficiency.

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We have a new hygiene head and she has just ordered her staff to wash bearings.
omg, i have told her bearings need grease and i thought she understood but no, i re greased them and hygiene washed them again, well i am Holiday from tonight so i will leave a note in the book (expect machine to seize about mid day) hygiene have washed the grease away.
 
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wolram said:
We have a new hygiene head and she has just ordered her staff to wash bearings.
omg, i have told her bearings need grease and i thought she understood but no, i re greased them and hygiene washed them again, well i am Holiday from tonight so i will leave a note in the book (expect machine to seize about mid day) hygiene have washed the grease away.

:smile: Sorry, I know it's not really funny, but I can't help but laugh. Do you get paid extra if you get called in on the weekend to fix a seized up machine? You might want to go ahead and put in an order for whatever parts will be damaged when they wash off all the grease again so it won't take too long to get things up and running again. What an idiot! I hope this is someone who can be fired quickly when everything seizes up and production stops.
 
Moonbear said:
:smile: Sorry, I know it's not really funny, but I can't help but laugh. Do you get paid extra if you get called in on the weekend to fix a seized up machine? You might want to go ahead and put in an order for whatever parts will be damaged when they wash off all the grease again so it won't take too long to get things up and running again. What an idiot! I hope this is someone who can be fired quickly when everything seizes up and production stops.


I have just made out a parts list for parts i know will be damaged, i shudder to think what will happen if it stops at certain points crash bang.she is so history, i have it all written down.
 
wolram said:
We have a new hygiene head and she has just ordered her staff to wash bearings.
omg, i have told her bearings need grease and i thought she understood but no, i re greased them and hygiene washed them again, well i am Holiday from tonight so i will leave a note in the book (expect machine to seize about mid day) hygiene have washed the grease away.
Wash bearings? :rolleyes:
 
Oh people like that are just great aren't they. We had a new safety coordinator at the job I worked this summer and she would do things like that. Have us hook up a piece of equipment so she could see how safely we worked around the PTO, I never quite understood how she was a good judge of that seeing as until that day she didn't know what the PTO was and had never hooked anything up in her life. She also told us the chemical suits we used for spraying insecticides sure looked hot and she hoped they were at least breathable, that made my day.

I don't understand how she could not know bearings + no grease = BAD. I swear people who get titles like safety coordinator or hygiene head are the people who have failed at everything else in life :P
 
Evo said:
Wash bearings? :rolleyes:

Yep, she had her head in every nook and cranny, i also told her we use food safe grease.
 
Does she think people are going to eat the bearings?
 
scorpa said:
She also told us the chemical suits we used for spraying insecticides sure looked hot and she hoped they were at least breathable, that made my day.
:smile: That's REALLY bad! Any chance she's moved to Britain and is now working in a cake factory?

I swear people who get titles like safety coordinator or hygiene head are the people who have failed at everything else in life :P

I think you might be right there. It certainly seems to require leaving behind all common sense.

Wollie, maybe you should consider telling the hygiene person that all the grease is purchased sterile and only applied with gloves on, so is completely safe to be where it is? I'd be torn between just letting her keep cleaning it off until catastrophe so you can get her fired faster and finding ways to save yourself the trouble of having to fix everything that's going to break.
 
scorpa said:
Oh people like that are just great aren't they. We had a new safety coordinator at the job I worked this summer and she would do things like that. Have us hook up a piece of equipment so she could see how safely we worked around the PTO, I never quite understood how she was a good judge of that seeing as until that day she didn't know what the PTO was and had never hooked anything up in her life. She also told us the chemical suits we used for spraying insecticides sure looked hot and she hoped they were at least breathable, that made my day.

I don't understand how she could not know bearings + no grease = BAD. I swear people who get titles like safety coordinator or hygiene head are the people who have failed at everything else in life :P


Usually i would out rank her with all things mechanical, but as it is the week end i can not get hold of my boss and she is just so annal.
 
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Moonbear said:
:smile: That's REALLY bad! Any chance she's moved to Britain and is now working in a cake factory?

I think I just sat there and stared blankly at her for a few minutes before I realized that she really did just say that. I could not believe it. You would think common sense would tell you a chemical suit should probably not be breathable but I guess not
 
  • #11
Moonbear said:
Wollie, maybe you should consider telling the hygiene person that all the grease is purchased sterile and only applied with gloves on, so is completely safe to be where it is? I'd be torn between just letting her keep cleaning it off until catastrophe so you can get her fired faster and finding ways to save yourself the trouble of having to fix everything that's going to break.


I will give it one more try, the trouble is she has all these swabs and paper work if any thing shows a certain color it seems she is authorized to clean it.
 
  • #12
She's probably just trying hard to impress people in her new role. Maybe after a little while she will get lazy like most people and stop trying so hard and let things like darn nasty greasy bearings slide...well if she doesn't get fired for causing the place to fly to pieces first that is. She really should learn to listen to people who know more than she does though.
 
  • #13
Fighting the urge to put a "Danger" comment in at this point...Must...fight it...must...
 
  • #14
hypatia said:
Fighting the urge to put a "Danger" comment in at this point...Must...fight it...must...

:smile:

There are a lot of baffling safety regulations. Did you know that syringes are sharps? No, not ones with needles attached, but just the syringe. I'm still looking for the sharp part. I could understand classifying them as medical waste, even if used for nothing but sucking up water, since you can't tell that by looking at them, but sharp? And, we have someone who seems to have nothing better to do than go around putting up notes over the sharps containers that they are for syringes only, no needles. :rolleyes: Needless to say, we ignore it. If she makes a bigger fuss of it, I'll drag in someone higher up to explain that detaching a used needle from a used syringe is more of a safety hazard than putting both together into the same waste container that you're not supposed to be reaching your hands into anyway.
 
  • #15
We just Hazmat everything anymore, from slides to gowns. It all gets sealed in 50 gallon blue drums, then men in gray suits {I call them the Hazmat fairys} wisk them away when no one is looking.
 
  • #16
Grrrrr, what a B----, she just walked out on me, the last one like her was getting tuped by one of directors.
 
  • #17
wolram said:
Grrrrr, what a B----, she just walked out on me, the last one like her was getting tuped by one of directors.
Ask her to produce a manual that shows that bearings do not need to be greased.
 
  • #18
hypatia said:
We just Hazmat everything anymore, from slides to gowns. It all gets sealed in 50 gallon blue drums, then men in gray suits {I call them the Hazmat fairys} wisk them away when no one is looking.

I wish it was so easy here. We have to separate everything, sharps, biohazard, chemical waste, and various combinations of each. If it didn't cost so much more, I'd be tempted to call it all mixed biohazardous sharp chemical waste, especially when the names seem arbitrary anyway. Drives me bonkers that I have to dispose of plastic serological pipets as biohazardous sharps when I've only used them to pipet STERILE WATER! The soda straws in the cafeteria trash are more hazardous.
 
  • #19
Evo said:
Ask her to produce a manual that shows that bearings do not need to be greased.

Ooh, you're good at this. You've done this before, haven't you? :approve:
 
  • #20
Evo said:
Ask her to produce a manual that shows that bearings do not need to be greased.


She has gone, left the building, she would not even leave me a copy of her paper work, i will send my boss an e mail but he won't read it till monday.
 
  • #21
What the hell are you greasing bearings for? Hey, just let it happen, if she's responsible, and you gave her fair warning, sit back, relax, and watch the dumb $%&* get fired.
 
  • #22
binzing said:
What the hell are you greasing bearings for? Hey, just let it happen, if she's responsible, and you gave her fair warning, sit back, relax, and watch the dumb $%&* get fired.

When she left i nearly went and re greased them but she has me crossed up now, if my guess is right they will loose half a days production tomorrow, may be lot more if non stocked parts are damaged.
 
  • #23
wolram said:
When she left i nearly went and re greased them but she has me crossed up now, if my guess is right they will loose half a days production tomorrow, may be lot more if non stocked parts are damaged.

Just keep your fingers crossed that the damage can be fixed by the weekend crew so you don't have to deal with it on Monday.
 
  • #24
Moonbear said:
Just keep your fingers crossed that the damage can be fixed by the weekend crew so you don't have to deal with it on Monday.

The longest one of these machines has been down is 10 hours, that was when a cleaner illegally opened a guard door and rigged it then managed to stick a broom in the main chain drive of the slat conveyor, the chain came off and did untold damage, that was when my new boss had just started, he asked me if i could fix it before production started. ROFL.
 
  • #25
Maybe you should just add some food colouring to the grease and tell the ***** that you've started to lube your bearings with icing.
 
  • #26
Well, if you can't be at fault and you've done what you felt best, as well as informing her of your opinion, let her take the fall when the sh!t flies.
 
  • #27
We had someone decide that large illumninated LASER signs had to be fitted to the darkroom doors - on BOTH sides, inside the DARKROOM as well as the corridor!
 
  • #28
mgb_phys said:
We had someone decide that large illumninated LASER signs had to be fitted to the darkroom doors - on BOTH sides, inside the DARKROOM as well as the corridor!
LOL.
 
  • #29
Any panic already, Wolram?
 
  • #30
wolram said:
She has gone, left the building, she would not even leave me a copy of her paper work, i will send my boss an e mail but he won't read it till monday.
I was going to suggest CYA and get her orders in writing. Aren't those sealed bearings?

I have heard of contamination issues from bearing lubricant ending up in production where it shouldn't be - but that was in another industry. But I imagine the lubricant one uses is compatible with food production.
 

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