Newton, freefall acceleration problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a cart and a hanging mass, focusing on the forces acting on both objects and the resulting acceleration. The problem is set in the context of Newton's laws and free-fall acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of free body diagrams and derive equations based on the forces acting on the cart and the hanging mass. There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the given weights and how they relate to mass and acceleration.

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Some participants have made progress in deriving equations and substituting values, while others express confusion about the relationships between the forces and the variables involved. There is an ongoing exploration of how to combine the equations to find acceleration.

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Participants note that the problem specifies neglecting certain factors, such as the mass of the string and pulley, which may influence their approach. The requirement to express the answer in terms of free-fall acceleration adds a layer of complexity to the discussion.

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The weight of the cart is 4 N. The weight of the hanging mass is 4 N.
Friction of the cart on the track is a constant force of 2 N magnitude.
The mass of the string, the mass of the pulley, and the friction of the pulley can be neglected.
What is the magnitude of the acceleration of the cart if g is the free-fall acceleration?
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The answer is to be given in terms of g.


Okay, here's what I have so far:

By drawing a free body diagram I manage to get these two equations for the forces acting on both the cart and the hanging mass:

I'm assuming positive acceleration to the right of the cart and down for the mass.

For the cart: T - Ff = ma
For the mass: T - mg = ma
(since they have the same weight, there is only one m)
We know that the weight of these two is 4N each so for both, 4 = ma (i'm predicting this might not be right...)

I'm having trouble applying their given information (4N weight for both masses) with the equations I'm coming up with, for example I don't know what this 4N corresponds to...
Is it 4N = m.a for the cart and 4N = mg for the hanging mass?

How do I apply the information they are giving me?

Thanks!
 

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For mass ma = mg - T.
For cart 4N is the normal reaction. In this problem it is not needed.
For the cart: T - Ff = ma
For the mass: mg- T = ma .Solve for T.
Hence find a by substituting m = 4/g
 
This doesn't really help me understand...
I end up having 2 equations:
1) T - Ff = ma
2) -T + mg = ma

Then I end up with

mg - Ff = 2ma (by combining 1 and 2)

and I'm stuck there.
 
Just figured it out...

we know that m1g=4 and m2g=4 => m1 = 4/g, m2 = 4/g

So in the end, after substituting in 1 and 2 we get

1) T1 - 2 = (4/g)a
2) -T1 + 4 = (4/g)a

By adding these 2 equations (to get rid of the T) we end up with
2 = 8a/g
which gives a = g/4.
 
That is the answer.
 

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