Newton's Law of Cooling equation

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The discussion revolves around Newton's Law of Cooling and the associated differential equation that describes the cooling process of an object. The original poster seeks to establish a relationship between the cooling constant \( k \) and the time \( \tau \) at which the initial temperature difference is halved.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the temperature equation and the implications of halving the initial temperature difference. Questions arise regarding the correct application of parameters and the cancellation of terms during calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the formulation of the equations and the reasoning behind the steps taken. There is acknowledgment of a correct relationship found, but questions remain about specific calculations and the handling of terms in the equations.

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There is mention of difficulties with LaTeX formatting in the discussion, which may affect clarity in presenting mathematical expressions.

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From Newton's Law of Cooling, we can use the differential equation

dT/dt= -k(T-Ts)

where Ts is the surrounding temperature, k is a positive constant, and T is the temperature.

Let \tau be the time at which the initial temperature difference T0-Ts has been reduced by half. Find the relation between k and \tau.


Work

I have found the temperature equation for the object to be

T(t) = Ts + (T0-Ts)e-kt

If the initial temperature difference is reduced by half, i tried

T(t) = Ts + 0.5(T0-Ts)e-kt

but couldn't solve it any further. Could someone please shed some light on what i should do next?
 
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2RIP said:
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I have found the temperature equation for the object to be

T(t) = Ts + (T0-Ts)e-kt

This seems to be right, but here:

If the initial temperature difference is reduced by half, i tried

T(t) = Ts + 0.5(T0-Ts)e-kt

you made some mistake with the parameter t. If we set notation

<br /> \Delta T(t) = T(t) - T_s,<br />

then the equation you want to solve is

<br /> \Delta T(\tau) = \frac{1}{2}\Delta T(0).<br />
 
Oh thanks for replying, i was able to get the correct answer.

k \tau = ln2

However, I'm still a bit unclear of why T(\tau)-Ts and T0-Ts canceled out during calculation. Or do T(\tau) and T0 equal? Also why isn't the 0.5 placed like

T(\tau) = Ts + 0.5(T0-Ts)e-k\tau, but instead

0.5[T(\tau)-Ts] = (T0-Ts)e-k\tau


Thanks again!
 
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2RIP said:
Oh thanks for replying, i was able to get the correct answer.

k \tau = ln2

The use of latex like this doesn't seem to be working very well. At least my browser makes that look like k^{\tau}=\textrm{ln}(2), although you are most certainly meaning k\tau = \textrm{ln}(2).

However, I'm still a bit unclear of why T(\tau)-Ts and T0-Ts canceled out during calculation. Or do T(\tau) and T0 equal? Also why isn't the 0.5 placed like

T(\tau) = Ts + 0.5(T0-Ts)e-k\tau, but instead

0.5[T(\tau)-Ts] = (T0-Ts)e-k\tau

It looks like you are getting the correct result, because you know what it is, and you are arriving at it "by force". :wink: Just try to chop the problem into smaller pieces, so that you can control it. We want this:

<br /> \Delta T(\tau) = \frac{1}{2} \Delta T(0)\quad\quad\quad\quad (1)<br />

where the temperature difference at each instant is given by

<br /> \Delta T(t) = T(t) - T_s = (T_0-T_s) e^{-k t}.<br />

So onto the left side of the equation (1) we get

<br /> (T_0 - T_s)e^{-k\tau}<br />

and on the right side

<br /> \frac{1}{2} (T_0 - T_s)e^{-k\cdot 0}.<br />

See how things go then?
 
Oh yeah i see it now, thanks a lot jostpuur. As for the latex inputs, I think I will go look for some tutorials on this forum. :smile:
 

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